TV Licence article Discussion

wild666

Cornucopia said:

They are saying another 500,000 households have given up their Licences.

I'm waiting for the 2024 figures! I bet that figure if even larger that the 2023 figure but it's got some going to be as large as the figures from 2014-2017 when 3.4 million cancelled over that period. I wonder how many that cancelled in that period are still licence free or have died or bought a licence. 
I'm hoping the 2024 figure exceeds the 1 million mark as this would be another £84,750,000 on top of the £84,750,000 that have cancelled at todays licence fee price. 

Krakkkers

It takes 8000 licenses just to pay for Gary Lineker.

Olinda99

some of the salaries the BBC pay are obscene.

And those published don't even include employees who are paid through production companies

mrbuster

What did it for me was finding out that the poor acting Charlie Fairhead in Casualty was paid £400,000.

Dave_606

Curious and hyperthetical question, what if a person uses their home WiFi from another address?, are they coved by the address they are watching from if that has a TV licence?.

And vice versa, what if a person using a neighbours WiFi from their address?.  The issue of if such a device is battery powered or mains connected at the time aside, its more an in general question.  

As if the neighbour has a TV licence but no wifi, can I watch tv from their house using my WiFi?.

Cornucopia

Dave_606 said:

Curious and hyperthetical question, what if a person uses their home WiFi from another address?, are they coved by the address they are watching from if that has a TV licence?.

And vice versa, what if a person using a neighbours WiFi from their address?.  The issue of if such a device is battery powered or mains connected at the time aside, its more an in general question.  

As if the neighbour has a TV licence but no wifi, can I watch tv from their house using my WiFi?.

I would say that it is the address where the TV broadcast/iPlayer viewing is going on that would need a Licence.

I don't think using WiFi from a different address would make any difference to that principle.   Having said that, it would be quite difficult to be successfully caught and prosecuted for watching at a neighbour's property, generally.    

If you were at a neighbour's property and they didn't have a Licence, but your address did, you would be able to watch on a portable device powered by its own internal batteries.

Olinda99

yes it is the address you are watching TV that needs to be licenced

 it doesn't matter how you receive it - it can be from your neighbours WI-Fi or beamed from a Martian spaceship

powerful_Rogue

Licence free from 2017. I did at the time go to fill out the no licence required form, however part of the T&C's was a visit. Nothing to hide, but certainly not agreeing to them visiting.

I've started to keep all the letters following a video from the Blackbelt Barriester. I reckon something might come of it in furture as the amount of dates they have given me to get licensed before something happens.

Last time I watched something live was the Queens funeral, which was exempt. However did have to say I had a TV licence on BBC iPlayer to be allowed to watch it.

Nick_C

Watching the Queen's funeral was not exempt if you were watching it on a TV Channel in your own home.  The exemption only applied to communal viewings such as community centres.  Same with the Coronation.  However, I watched both streamed live on YouTube.  Not TV, but streamed by Newspapers and the Royal Family YouTube channel, for example. 

Shadebather

A simple question... perhaps.

If you legally record live TV at your home, properly licensed... and then watch it at a later date, when your license has expired and not been renewed [and you are not watching any live TV or making recordings of same] ... would that be in breach of the law?

The question is partly prompted by this posting by Cornucopia

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/75541312/#Comment_75541312

where it is suggested: "You can take your Laptop to your Parents'/Friends' address and use the download feature of iPlayer to download content whilst covered by their TV Licence that you can then watch anywhere else at any time (perfectly legally)."

To me, that sounds like the same thing - recording [which I take to be the same as downloading, perhaps wrongly?] something legally - and then watching it at a place [or, in the case I'm querying, time] where it would not be legal to make the same recording. 

Is anyone aware of any case law? 

And if so, would there be any difference between content that was originally sourced from the BBC, as opposed to say ITV [that is available legally to non-licensed people via ITVX, for example].