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The MSE European Referendum? Poll results/discussion

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  • teddyco
    teddyco Posts: 397 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    If there was a vote for Britain to get out of the EU tomorrow, I would vote to get out now while we still have any sense of Britishness left in this country !

    I don't need to read any lengthy documents that have been cleverly worded to know that being in the European Union is not good and will never be a benefit for this country.

    Does anyone see the irony in option 'C'?

    POLITICIANS SHOULD DECIDE. It's too complex, no referendum, let them decide.

    If we stay in the EU, one day our politicians WON'T be allowed to decide anything.
  • "I don't need to read any lengthy documents that have been cleverly worded to know that being in the European Union is not good"

    ...not sure I agree with you. I would think to "know" anything, you would have to read it, or at least attempt to objectively read around it to come to an informed decision.

    Sometimes I wonder why we have democracy, if we're just going to use intuition to vote!

    Its too easy, for both pro and anti europeans, to just use this issue as an excuse to express their opinion on how they feel about the EU. In my opinion, there are good and bad things about the treaty, though I'm cautiously in favour. However, I'd rather elected politicians made the decision for me, as their job is to represent my interests and I am confident they will. Our job is to make sure those interests are heard, by writing to them, talking to them, and reading about the issues so that we know what we're doing too. Most importantly of all, we dangle the carrot of re election and the stick of ousting a government. Its not a perfect system, but if you attempt to be well informed, then it works
  • rcherryuk
    rcherryuk Posts: 17 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    nephilim wrote: »
    I personally believe that the UK should TOTALLY withdraw from the EU, and stand on its own.

    Keep the trade open with Europe yes by all means, but do certain things to make sure people do not take advantage of the country.

    Those with a 2 year or more prison sentance - send them to labour camps / chain gang them like in the US.

    Those who wish to come into the country with no english, and little working skills, they can spend 2 years working in coal mines (earning a living, not doing it for nothing), and earn their way into the country.

    Death penalty should be bought back in, but no hanging, no lethal injection, just a gun, and a bullet. God I sound like a right little hitler, but hell, I only want to see the country become strong again.

    If we did as you want I don't think there would be many wage earners left. I'd certainly be off like a shot!
    Also who would want to do business with us if we pulled out of the EU?
    With the world recession as it is we wouldn't even be able to attract the old staples of American & Japanese tourists!!

    Think again?

    Rob
  • Aliktren
    Aliktren Posts: 306 Forumite
    missiing option, spend a little bit of time informing the public, then allow them to make a decision.
  • BigMummaF
    BigMummaF Posts: 4,281 Forumite
    Do they have to use gobbledy-gook to write these damned things:confused: Is it another Brussels directive to use more words than is ever necessary;)

    If I knew what they were talking about, I would make an informed decision:o As it is, I'll just use the experience of living with what Ted Heath got us into to say that I whoel-heartedly support Britain leaving the European Union.
    Full time Carer for Mum; harassed mother of three;
    loving & loved by two 4-legged babies.

  • Derek_A.
    Derek_A. Posts: 74 Forumite
    I will always vote against the EU all the time that the French only pay 500 Million into the kitty, whils we pay in at least 16 Billion.
    Remember we get a derisory amount back. We with Germany are are funding just about all the EU buget
  • Why trust politicains when Gordon Brown promised us a referendum on the treaty then betrayed us?
  • rcherryuk
    rcherryuk Posts: 17 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Aliktren wrote: »
    missiing option, spend a little bit of time informing the public, then allow them to make a decision.

    Agreed, Does anyone else remember how much information was given to us to enable us to make an educated decision when the UK voted to join the Common Market in 1973?

    Also in the 1997 General Election I was doorstepped by a lackey from Goldsmiths Referendum Party who asked if I would vote for them so " We can have a Referendum and get out of Europe" when I asked what would happen if we had a referendum ad voted to stay in?

    He literally ran away!!

    Rob
  • nelly_2
    nelly_2 Posts: 17,863 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    rcherryuk wrote: »
    Also who would want to do business with us if we pulled out of the EU?
    With the world recession as it is we wouldn't even be able to attract the old staples of American & Japanese tourists!!

    Think again?

    Rob

    Eh?

    Every company that does business with us now would do business with us if we pulled out!

    Why would Merc, BMW, Volkswagon, Bosch, etc etc etc not sell to us anymore?
  • Some members of the great British public shouldn't be allowed to decide which underwear to wear, never mind whether or not the country should be part of the EU.

    That said, I'm impressed that 2,000 people have voted in a poll that doesn't start until next month.

    :)

    GG
    There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those that don't.
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