Is a 2.2 really that bad :(

greyster

where is that based retpetsir

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greyster wrote: »

and you graduated when and how old? and what industry are you in and whereabouts? I'm also curious how many hours you do.

There are many exceptions and it would be wrong to say what ringo has achieved is not possible. However the average grad pay starting pay is 16k. You have to be realistic. There are thousands of grads doing jobs that don't need degrees, yet there are few ringos. This is not a lie.

My best friend joined the Graduate scheme at Accenture and he was on at the time 28k + 10k bonus (6k in first year, 4k in second). I think at the time this was the best scheme I could see, perhaps a London bank pays more. He's on more now, facing promotions and I hear they up'd the salary again now for graduates.

Last time I heard Accenture paid graduates 31K

Graduated in 2001 - did an MSc in 2002, started working in academic research in Cardiff on 18k in 2003 (finished as a Research Fellow), moved to IT consulting in London 2005 .. have just had 2 promotions in 6 months .. I currently work 40 hours a week, usually a max of 44 (although my record is 22hrs in a row before a major project go-live)

Here's an interesting thing - Accenture won't touch me because of my 2:2 and 3'Cs at A Level. I also didn't have much luck applying for KPMG.

Quite happy at the moment though so no plans to move

BigBouncyBall

and thats exactly the reason i won't touch companies like Accenture/KPMG/Deloite/E&Y etc with a barge pole.

rdwarr

BigBouncyBall wrote: »

and thats exactly the reason i won't touch companies like Accenture/KPMG/Deloite/E&Y etc with a barge pole.

What do you normally clean the windows with then?

lidlest

bestpud wrote: »

I feel the same tbh. Not that a 2:2 would stop me going to my graduation ceremony, but I would be very upset too and, dare I say, embarrassed about it.

In fact, if I could see myself heading for a 2:2 I'd be going all out to turn it around, including badgering tutors for feedback.

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Thats what I did at the end of my second year, I was on course for a 2:2 and thought sod it, if I am going to do this I may as well give it my all. Many long hours in the library and weeks spent writing assignments. I pulled in a first and couldn't have been prouder, yes it was barely a first ( by 0.3% when weighted) but noone needs to know that

bestpud

lidlest wrote: »

bestpud wrote: »

I feel the same tbh. Not that a 2:2 would stop me going to my graduation ceremony, but I would be very upset too and, dare I say, embarrassed about it.

In fact, if I could see myself heading for a 2:2 I'd be going all out to turn it around, including badgering tutors for feedback.

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Thats what I did at the end of my second year, I was on course for a 2:2 and thought sod it, if I am going to do this I may as well give it my all. Many long hours in the library and weeks spent writing assignments. I pulled in a first and couldn't have been prouder, yes it was barely a first ( by 0.3% when weighted) but noone needs to know that

Fantastic achievement! Well done you!! :T

A first is a first, no matter how close a shave it was!

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I was thinking a bit as i came off my lunch today... the degree classification system is a terrible, terrible way of determining how good someone is at a subject.

My 2:2 doesn't show that I'm rubbish at advanced molecular biology (38% exam result) but i'm rather good at project work (70% in my dissertation). It doesn't show my 'average' was 58.95%. In fact, it's a very poor statistical value to judge my academic performance by.

Down with the ancient grading system! We need to bring in a points system like the Americans ( I believe you get a score out of 4 per subject). This may help get rid of the rather pointless system some firms use to judge candidates (e.g 2:1's and above over - why not have must have > 3.0 in one subject, must have > 2.5 average)

BigBouncyBall

i think its as bad a system as the A-Levels and GCSEs.

needs an overhaul - afaic

superfurryanimal

neas wrote: »

What can you do with Psychology? Can you back up your statement with evidence? Statistics?

Its a good pic for students to do, its not too 'mathematical' or scientific while being respected by the population as not being 'media studies' or 'golf course management'.

Now there are always outliers here and there people doing psychology and media studies who get good jobs BUT it is HARDER to get a job with psychology... I wouldn't feel right not disagreeing with you.

Maybe Im wrong but please please back up this comment with evidence to show me im wrong but my friends who are 2nd year psych students give me the big impression its gonna be tough for them.

I have to massively disagree with you here and stick up for my subject! There are two main types of psychology degree you can do resulting ineither a BSc or a BA. My degree (BSc) certainly was scientific and mathematical. We shared modules with neuroscience and med students and the statistics modules were pretty tough. I got a 2:1 in the end and got a decent job fairly quickly completely unrelated to psychology. Many of my course mates got good jobs both related and unrelated to psych. I admit it's slightly different for BA Pscyhology but it is still an excellent degree which will arm you with many good employable skills. You could argue though that if this is the kind of reputation that Psychology degrees have it's no wonder people are finding it hard to get jobs!

In my experience of hiring, enthusiasm, passion and good communication count for a lot more than degree class if you're not going for one of the big grad schemes. Also I work for a fairly small company which definitely has its advantages and is a lot more fulfilling in my opinion.

Nenen

dancingqueen_tr wrote: »

you can do psychology and qualify to be a psychiatrist.

Not unless you use your psychology degree to get onto a degree in medicine you can't! Psychiatrists have to be qualified doctors!