How can people be so greedy?

neas

Im presuming you two are not in your early 20's then?

ixwood

I also have a friend who left school at 16, started on a production line on minimun wage and has now in early 30's has worked her way up to a 45k position.

"The reason a lot of people do not recognize opportunity is because it usually goes around wearing overalls and looking like hard work." -- Thomas Edison

neas

jamescredmond wrote: »

I've got what I set out to get: a family home.
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True, its all I want, but not at the risk of bankruptcy in financially turbulent times. Im quite fortunate though my job will probably be ok in a downturn. I guess the people in the financial industry would be a bit more worried.

Andy_Hamilton

Davesnave wrote: »

Is it me, or is £270 a month not pretty reasonable?

There is a million miles between what I've read about Mr Hamilton & you, as you present yourself.

£270 is very reasonable for what is actually offered.

I had choice when I was younger, my parents had no money to give us pocket money so we all had paper rounds. When I was at school I used to make £5-10 for helping market traders setup their stalls before school and aftwards.
Since then I knew that I would get nothing for nothing. My world fell to bits in 2002 being made redundant at the grand old age 22. I had nothing to fall back onto except the dole. I was making £300-400 per month (interview expenses mainly) when my car loan was £250. For 5 years I commuted 100 miles per day because I had to for my mental state if nothing else.
Last newyear I thought **** it and put a deposit down on a house.
Since then I have worked my !!!! off and can honestly say there's nothing more I can save without destroying my life.
If I was made redundant tomorrow I would still be able to keep my home and could drop down to a wage of £600 per month.

neas wrote: »

you are correct. It is not always true but for a Engineer... you need a degree.

Its not something you can just wake up one morning and decide to do. Most science/engineering subjects require structured learning programmes.

As a production engineer myself, people with degrees without 5 years experience won't get you in the door of my establishment. Apprentiships are requested as standard for our company but I do see some adverts for other companies.

ixwood

No, early 30's for me (think badge said she was 25), BUT i wasn't naive/optimsitic/dumb enough to expect any house when I was early 20's, let alone an average one.

neas

ixwood wrote: »

I also have a friend who left school at 16, started on a production line on minimun wage and has now in early 30's has worked her way up to a 45k position.

"The reason a lot of people do not recognize opportunity is because it usually goes around wearing overalls and looking like hard work." -- Thomas Edison

I fail to see whats this got to do with the original topic? Think this is diverging into an Us vs them generational argument.

I guess you are right though... maybe i shouldnt have gone to uni.. maybe all the people who design/build your mobile phones,tvs, aeroplanes, bridges shoulda just gone to tesco and become a manager right?

Gorgeous_George

Badger_Lady wrote: »

When my Mum was growing up with her Brother and Sister, the whole family lived in a caravan for some time until they managed to get a council house. My Mum remembers one day in winter when the water pipes burst and the whole floor was sheeted in ice.

That was with my Grandfather working as a carpenter and my Grandmother working as a secretary.

You were lucky...

GG

jamescredmond

neas wrote: »

True, its all I want, but not at the risk of bankruptcy in financially turbulent times. Im quite fortunate though my job will probably be ok in a downturn. I guess the people in the financial industry would be a bit more worried.

then take the advice and hang on.

Badger_Lady

neas wrote: »

I guess you are right though... maybe i shouldnt have gone to uni.. maybe all the people who design/build your mobile phones,tvs, aeroplanes, bridges shoulda just gone to tesco and become a manager right?

Hey, hey, hey - I've got nothing against you going to Uni, I know you needed a degree to live out your dream - but comments like this won't do you any favours!

My lack of a degree didn't get me any kind of job at Tesco, McDonalds or whatever else you're going to stereotype me with - it's my role to build online strategy and business concepts for one of the largest companies in the UK.

As for this thread descending into a generational dispute - wasn't the original title "Why is the older generation so greedy?"

ixwood

I'm not saying you shouldn't have gone to uni. i'm saying you shouldn't expect to just buy a house the day you start working, let alone an average or nice house.

Lifes goals take planning and hard work. You've achived one gettiung educated and that has set you up for the a decent future. You now have to work on the next.

I bet the average age of house ownership was a lot older than early twenties in the past. Your expectations seem unreasonable to me and you appear to know little about the economic factors that will affect your next goal.

Nevermind the fact, that you probably could buy a house now anyway.

Be postive and strive to achive whatever you want to. Moaning doesn't help anyone. In 10 years time you'll probably be set up and in a much better situation.