Hotpoint washer broke after 14 months

hi, short story - Purchased hotpoint washer dryer October 2006. Breaks down Dec 2007. Pay hotpoint nearly £100 to fix (the motherboard melted and also destroyed the wiring loom) Read on https://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk that it is a common problem within this certain hotpoint/indesit chassis

So write a letter asking for £100 refund as goods had "design flaw" - Indesit replied saying its "difficult to put a life expectancy on individual parts" so no they cannot consider it :(

Next steps or am i flogging a dead horse? £100 is alot of money!
«1

Comments

  • hollydays
    hollydays Posts: 19,812 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    How long was the guarantee? How much did you pay for it? The problem as I understand it is that customers want a washer/dryer combo,but those in the trade say the two do not really go together,hence some problems.Expecting a manufacturer to admit to a design flaw is not realistic,IMHO.

    Re:washer dryers,Whitegoods buying guide says "We do not advise you buying one,but if you have to, read this.."etc.
  • cheeky
    cheeky Posts: 514 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    the guarantee was 1 year, it broke after 14 months. It was over £400 so wasnt the cheapest one out there.

    I know that washer dryers are not as reliable as washers but we have 2 young boys and its a necessity. Either way, you would expect it to last greater than 14 months. And it wasnt a mechanical fault - it was a electrical fire.

    Is there not a clause in EU law re 2 year warranty minimum? Or have we abstained from that?
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Thanks for sharing that - feel sorry for you that's pants....I'll avoid hot point:money:
  • taxiphil
    taxiphil Posts: 1,980 Forumite
    Sounds like you've been barking up the wrong tree by going after the manufacturer.

    It's the retailer who's legally responsible under the Sale of Goods Act. They should definitely repair or replace it free of charge after only 14 months, especially as it's such an expensive model. The SoGA covers you for up to 6 years.

    Don't take any notice of guarantees/warranties - your legal rights under the SoGA are all that matter.
  • Brooker_Dave
    Brooker_Dave Posts: 5,196 Forumite
    cheeky wrote: »
    hi, short story - Purchased hotpoint washer dryer October 2006. Breaks down Dec 2007. Pay hotpoint nearly £100 to fix (the motherboard melted and also destroyed the wiring loom) Read on www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk that it is a common problem within this certain hotpoint/indesit chassis

    So write a letter asking for £100 refund as goods had "design flaw" - Indesit replied saying its "difficult to put a life expectancy on individual parts" so no they cannot consider it :(

    Next steps or am i flogging a dead horse? £100 is alot of money!

    £100 does not seem much of a bill for a what must have been quite a big repair...
    "Love you Dave Brooker! x"

    "i sent a letter headded sales of god act 1979"
  • pinkshoes
    pinkshoes Posts: 20,462 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    I agree with taxiphil, that your contract is with the shop you bought it from, as under the sale of goods act, they have to offer you a free repair or replacement for what is considered a reasonable shelf life of a washer/dryer.

    I'd expect a washer/dryer to last for at least 3 years!!

    Go back to the shop and explain the situation, and if they're uncooperative (which will no doubt be the case), then write to the managing director and ask for a refund.

    Because you've already paid this £100, I'm not sure where you stand in getting it back, as your original port of call should have been with the shop and not with Hotpoint.
    Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
    Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')

    No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)
  • Pound
    Pound Posts: 2,784 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    You can claim the £100 back from the retailer, the SOGA allows you to claim compensation for the cost of repairs. However, because it's older than 6 months the retailer can require you to provide proof that there was a manufacturing fault. This usually involves asking a qualified engineer to inspect the item and put this in writing which you can present to the retailer.

    You should speak to the retailer first and see exactly what they want you to do.
  • lemmings999
    lemmings999 Posts: 48 Forumite
    Dont think they can claim it back off the retailer if they went to hotpoint first as it should have been reported to the retailer first who then would have been responsible, as far as i'm aware you cannot just get something repaired then claim the money back as the retailer would have been entitled to inspect the unit and used engineers of their choise, ie thier own or hotpoint may have a contract with the retailer where they charge them less for the repair

    Pound wrote: »
    You can claim the £100 back from the retailer, the SOGA allows you to claim compensation for the cost of repairs. However, because it's older than 6 months the retailer can require you to provide proof that there was a manufacturing fault. This usually involves asking a qualified engineer to inspect the item and put this in writing which you can present to the retailer.

    You should speak to the retailer first and see exactly what they want you to do.
  • Pound
    Pound Posts: 2,784 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Dont think they can claim it back off the retailer if they went to hotpoint first as it should have been reported to the retailer first who then would have been responsible, as far as i'm aware you cannot just get something repaired then claim the money back as the retailer would have been entitled to inspect the unit and used engineers of their choise, ie thier own or hotpoint may have a contract with the retailer where they charge them less for the repair

    The SOGA specifically states where there is a breach of contract, the buyer may "maintain an action against the seller for damages", which in my view means the buyer has the option of getting repairs done and claiming damages.

    IANAL
  • hollydays
    hollydays Posts: 19,812 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I hope the retailer can sort it out for you.Was it a national company or smaller retailer? Have you spoken to them at all?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 349.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 452.9K Spending & Discounts
  • 242.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 619.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.3K Life & Family
  • 255.6K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.