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Cca Requests Updates Please

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  • kinjo1
    kinjo1 Posts: 24 Forumite
    blueforyou wrote: »
    They don't appear to have satisfied their legal obligation, so send the 12+2 letter (as though you had not received ANY reply - you clearly have not received a legit reply!).

    Thanks Bluefor you, so i can ignore this "supposed" CCA and just send 12+2?
  • sandalwood_2
    sandalwood_2 Posts: 118 Forumite
    Hi,
    Starting a DMP 1st June and one of my creditors is a Virgin loan (MBNA) that I took out post 2007,do you think it may be worth while to ask for an agreement and if they cannot provide one how would I try and get this written off or cancelled? Is this how it works? sorry to be a bit vauge but I am new to all this
    Thanking you all in advance
    jaybag
  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    jaybag wrote: »
    Starting a DMP 1st June and one of my creditors is a Virgin loan (MBNA) that I took out post 2007,do you think it may be worth while to ask for an agreement and if they cannot provide one how would I try and get this written off or cancelled?

    You can ask, but an agreement from that time cannot be automatically unenforceable.
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  • sandalwood_2
    sandalwood_2 Posts: 118 Forumite
    fermi wrote: »
    You can ask, but an agreement from that time cannot be automatically unenforceable.
    So what would that mean? (sorry for the questions,this is new to me)
  • stapeley
    stapeley Posts: 2,315 Forumite
    The regs were changed in 2006/7 to allow for online applications therefore a signature was not required . Before that basically, if they do not have a SIGNED copy of a consumer credit agreement which contains the prescribed terms , it is very difficult for them to enforce the agreement in law .
  • sandalwood_2
    sandalwood_2 Posts: 118 Forumite
    stapeley wrote: »
    The regs were changed in 2006/7 to allow for online applications therefore a signature was not required . Before that basically, if they do not have a SIGNED copy of a consumer credit agreement which contains the prescribed terms , it is very difficult for them to enforce the agreement in law .

    So do you think that it may be worth a try to ask for it and see what they say?
    How would I go about this? just write a letter stating that I would like to see a copy? and if they havent got it,what happens then?
  • blueforyou
    blueforyou Posts: 152 Forumite
    kinjo1 wrote: »
    Thanks Bluefor you, so i can ignore this "supposed" CCA and just send 12+2?

    Yes, BUT check when the alleged agreement was signed. If it was taken up on-line be careful the new regs allow for on -line applications so a signed copy of a CCA is not necessary. So if it is post 2006 it would be enforceable.

    If not then send the 12+2 anyway.
  • MS_Dolphin
    MS_Dolphin Posts: 178 Forumite
    Hi,

    I've just been served my first default letter - by M&S Money.

    The only response I've had having sent CCA request on 5 March and SAR on 20 March was one letter saying they will not respond to my request without a signature.

    I don't want the default but what do I do now?
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  • blind-as-a-bat_2
    blind-as-a-bat_2 Posts: 4,304 Forumite
    MS_Dolphin wrote: »
    Hi,

    I've just been served my first default letter - by M&S Money.

    The only response I've had having sent CCA request on 5 March and SAR on 20 March was one letter saying they will not respond to my request without a signature.

    I don't want the default but what do I do now?

    The questions are, is it a correct default notice, or just a letter claiming to be a default, do you have a scanner?

    Then there is the question have they registered a default at all with the CRA? dont take it as read they have

    If they have, as they are in default of a CCA request i assume, they should not be inforceing anything regarding the agreemant, that includes issueing a default notice(if it is one)

    As for the sig, they are entitled to ask for an SAR, but not an CCA BUT its a bit late in the day to worry about verifying your identity isnt it:confused:
    Thats it, i am done, Blind-as-a-Bat has left the forum, for good this time, there is no way I can recover this account, as the password was random, and not recorded, and the email used no longer exits, nor can be recovered to recover the account, goodbye all …………. :(
  • MS_Dolphin
    MS_Dolphin Posts: 178 Forumite
    The questions are, is it a correct default notice, or just a letter claiming to be a default, do you have a scanner?

    Then there is the question have they registered a default at all with the CRA? dont take it as read they have

    If they have, as they are in default of a CCA request i assume, they should not be inforceing anything regarding the agreemant, that includes issueing a default notice(if it is one)

    As for the sig, they are entitled to ask for an SAR, but not an CCA BUT its a bit late in the day to worry about verifying your identity isnt it:confused:


    I've called them and they say its actually a threat of a default - although it doesn't read that way. They do so still say they aren't going to act on the CCA request without a signature, so the question is still the same, what do I do when they do issue a default?

    Thanks
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