Do all students have it this bad?!

bestpud

I_am_mad wrote: »

Dont judge a book by its cover, I dont like the way your talking thank you. You dont have any idea what my financial situation is and the fact that you say if the extra money will help me that much, reckon to gain £700? Am i not allowed to have my own opinion about people and the system as the last time i checked i can, if you were in my situation you would probably think the same.

You used the words 'think' and 'believe', which implies you do not know for sure? Therefore you are looking at these 'well-off' students and making assumptions. That is judging a book by it's cover!

You are correct, I have no idea of your financial circumstances, but your post suggests you are not that well off (it's not rocket science - you are complaining about a lack of money!!).

Anyway, you said these other students get a grant of £1000 while you only get £300. If your mothers income if now virtually zero then it seems you will be entitled to the £1000 grant too?

Are you following me so far?

Sooo, if you were to pay for your mum to see a solicitor and get you the evidence you require (unlikely to cost several hundred pounds!), you will gain financially.

I thought I was actually offering a feasible option, but perhaps not! :rolleyes:

I_am_mad

I just didnt like the way you were saying it, and as for i believe and think ok i will change it to i know! didnt think the wording mattered much. Besides no one really knows what people earn but it still doesnt stop people from talking about people cheating the system, it makes me angry that they do!!

poet123

OohSoHolly wrote: »

The system is flawed.
One of my friends has parents with considerably good jobs, they are paying for her Tuition fees, Rent, and give her £350 a month to live off. But she has taken out the loan for the maintenance which she has sat nicely in a savings account building up interest which means when she leaves not only will she be debt free but she'll have all the interest built up off the loan in the savings account.
Now im going to be leaving with about £17,000 worth of debt. Tell me how the system is helping those from poorer backgrounds?
Ha Ha....Sorry rant over____!

Now why should the above make you mad?

The student in question has parents who are paying her way through their own hard earned cash. The student is taking the loan and investing it,it will still be paid back with interest,leaving her with the interest on the amount saved,and no debt. The fact that she has no debt is because her parents made it so,not the taxpayer, not you.

So why is it any of your business? and exactly how do you think her actions and those of her parents affect you?

I_am_mad

this is a nasty thread

bestpud

poet123 wrote: »

Now why should the above make you mad?

The student in question has parents who are paying her way through their own hard earned cash. The student is taking the loan and investing it,it will still be paid back with interest,leaving her with the interest on the amount saved,and no debt. The fact that she has no debt is because her parents made it so,not the taxpayer, not you.

So why is it any of your business? and exactly how do you think her actions and those of her parents affect you?

I thought that too. I could understand it if the student were getting grants but not when it is just the loan they have claimed.

I_am_mad: Why do you think this is a 'nasty thread'?

twinklyspecialkag

Zziggi wrote: »

I understand that social services are obliged to support a child up to the age of 21 if the child has been in care for a MINIMUM of 16 weeks whilst classified as a child. They do get a computer provided and (i think) termly visits from a social worker from their home county (if away from home at uni). I know as a relative does this for Social services.

The question is, would YOU want to have been shoved in local authority care for a minimum of 4 months just to get a bit of help at university?

Good reply. Once your classed as a care leaver you are entitled to allsorts of support, this is to ensure that you have equal opportunity compared to someone who had the support of their parents.

Its all part of the Leaving care legislation. I think that this is a situation where the system works, weve got children from disadvantaged backgrounds going & achieving their potential.

This didnt used to be the case, If you were a care leaver you'd get help to move into your first home and then social services would wave goodbye! With no support what chance did they have?!?

Sometimes things dont seem fair purely because you dont have all the details.

poet123

I_am_mad wrote: »

this is a nasty thread

Not sure why you would say this?

My post was a genuine query as to why the actions of the student you mention would impact you. Also why you think there is anything wrong with what she is doing.

OohSoHolly

poet123 wrote: »

Now why should the above make you mad?

The student in question has parents who are paying her way through their own hard earned cash. The student is taking the loan and investing it,it will still be paid back with interest,leaving her with the interest on the amount saved,and no debt. The fact that she has no debt is because her parents made it so,not the taxpayer, not you.

So why is it any of your business? and exactly how do you think her actions and those of her parents affect you?

It was just an example of how some people have it easy and some dont and before anyone says it i know thats life! But you would think there would be a better system so that not everyone came out quite as bad. Just a thought :rotfl: O and my parents have also worked very hard:rolleyes:

poet123

As you say, if you look at any situation closely you will find inequalities but that is not what we are talking about here. Here it is a simple case of parents paying for their child,not abusing or circumventing the system,but paying from earned income. Many parents could do this but choose not to,you cannot blame the system for that.

Your comments came across as really bitter,and implied the student in question was somehow cheating you, and that because of her actions you were losing out. When in reality what she does has no effect on the monies you receive whatsoever.

Voyager2002

I_am_mad wrote: »

Dont judge a book by its cover, I dont like the way your talking thank you. You dont have any idea what my financial situation is and the fact that you say if the extra money will help me that much, reckon to gain £700? Am i not allowed to have my own opinion about people and the system as the last time i checked i can, if you were in my situation you would probably think the same.

What a wonderful example of considered, analytical thought. I do hope that "I_am_mad" is not actually a university student: if so, I dread to think what has happened to admissions standards.