Parking fine / penalty notice

roddydogs

There has to be a time plate on Single Yellow (or Red) Lines. UNLESS its in a "Controlled Zone" when restrictions are posted on all entrances to the controlled zone-their will be no time plate in this case-its up to you to read the sign as you go in. If you live IN the controlled zone, you should already know the restrictions.

itsallaboutthemoney

ladies please don't use my post if you wanna hook up with bitter truck driver. there are other places to do that, a post about parking isn't one of them.

broke_mum_of_three

jeannieblue wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, but isn't the single yellow sufficient to say 'no parking'?[/quote
A single yellow is for loading and unloading, my problem was that my "load" was on the fourth floor of a building , so I locked my car whilst I was away but according to the traffic warden you have to be seen to be actively loading and unloading, so if I had left my cars doors and boot open whilst I ran to the top floor I might have stood a better chance instead of securing my vehicle

roddydogs

A TW or Parking Attendent only has to observe for 3mins without seeing evidence of "loading" in order to issue a ticket. its virtually impossible , so its just a "money spinner"

Cricri

Well, I for one agree with Conor (although the form is arguable).
By definition, a yellow line means no parking. You park on a yellow line. You get a ticket.
Well, no surprise, you were up for a ticket, got it, and now have to pay it.
Sure, you could always refuse to pay and argue your case. If you do, I put my money on the council.
*EDIT* I understand that you're trying to use the loading argument. But for a vaccine? Or did you have a whole box of them? I ask because if we go that way, one could argue that it's fine to park on a yellow line to go get a chocolate bar or a newspaper.

Wig

Cricri wrote: »

(although the form is arguable).

Only arguable? It was downright out of order! I can put up with his childish comments directed at me (when he feels like making a prat of himself) but to do this to a new MSE is pondscum behaviour.

OP,
You have no chance (IMHO) roddydogs has already given the answer, lack of signs on a single yellow or red line should indicate that you are within a "zone" and you should go in search of the "Zone entry point" to see the relevant restrictions. However some cleverdick might be able to delve deeper into your case but it would require a hands on approach and someone with a lot of time and knowledge. There might for example have been a procedural error by the council in the process they followed before erecting the signs and painting the road. My advice, pay up.

Cricri

First you blame Conor for using too strong a word, then you blame me for using euphemisms

Back on topic, I didn't know a sign was required. I always check for lines when I park.
One of my housemates once tried to argue that signs were too far and too high, but eventually she had to cough up the cash.

Wig

Single lines by definition indicate restrictions apply at certain times/days so there has to be a sign to indicate what the restictions are. The signs can either be at the roadside of the road in question OR the road might be part of a "controlled zone" in which case the signs need only be placed at the entry roads into the zone.

As for double yellows or double reds, although these usually mean no waiting at any time, there can be exemption periods indicated on nearby signs. It is perhaps for this reason that I have previously read on the internet that even for double yellows - signs nearby are a requirement for them to be enforceable. Though I have no definitive views on this.

*Sorry about my reaction to your euphemism, I felt a stronger denouncement was required.

Doublespresso

I disagree.

A single line is not a sign of a "blanket" no parking rule, and it's usually restricted to certain times.

As a rule of thumb, a single yellow line means no parking during business hours relevant to that area, so during a Sunday Market expect to get a ticket if you park on a single line. (but elsewhere it is generally free) As mentioned elsewhere,always read the signs or any nearby meters (which will also tell you the restricted times)

As for sign posts, I once got a Bus Lane ticket cancelled due to the fact that the sign was facing the other way and I couldn't have seen the times. BTW it was at 10pm (!) in Tottenham Court Road.

itsallaboutthemoney

"Well, I for one agree with Conor"

Well done Cricri, you've just gotten Conor and yourself reported to MSE for abusive posts.