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Housing Market Downturn - Really?!

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  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
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    m00m00 wrote: »
    high interest rates don't matter if the houses were a third of the price.

    and people were not totally obsessed with owing a property back then like these days.

    and more council housing, and easier to get one.
  • m00m00
    m00m00 Posts: 1,755 Forumite
    actually wrong.

    the bulk of the council sell off houses and the rush to own private property began from 1980 onwards

    the peak of unemployment was in the mid 80s, and was in decline in the early 90s
    It's a health benefit ...
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    Where do you get yours? I have not seen any evidence of 40% drops, that most people on this forum like to predict.


    No - NOBODY is claiming that prices HAVE ALREADY fallen 40%, as you well know.

    We're talking about what they will do. The trend would appear to be downwards.

    You however, appear to have evidence to the contrary - that means you know prices will stop falling and start rising.

    So let's see it then. References, please? (And no, the milkman said, or my next door neighbour sold his house for x does not a national trend make.)
  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
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    carolt wrote: »
    No - NOBODY is claiming that prices HAVE ALREADY fallen 40%, as you well know.

    We're talking about what they will do. The trend would appear to be downwards.

    You however, appear to have evidence to the contrary - that means you know prices will stop falling and start rising.

    So let's see it then. References, please? (And no, the milkman said, or my next door neighbour sold his house for x does not a national trend make.)

    The point I was making is that a lot of people on this forum, including yourself, assume we will see huge falls in the housing market, so where is your evidence of that?
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    Not forgotten, but i'll give it to the end of the year and the worst will be over.

    Renters hoping to cash in on a cheap property as a result of the credit crunch, will be disappointed.

    Remember, you heard it hear first folks!

    I wish I could note this post, so I could come back and laugh at the end of the year (-:
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    High interest rates, High unemployment

    The interest rate thing is comparative.

    Say, for example, you bought your place at 10%, and rates go up to 15%. Sounds horrible - and it is, but it's a rise of 50%.

    If you buy a house at 4% interest rates, 6% is a rise of 50%....
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Turnbull2000
    Turnbull2000 Posts: 1,807 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    The point I was making is that a lot of people on this forum, including yourself, assume we will see huge falls in the housing market, so where is your evidence of that?

    While we're at it, what's your evidence for this below?
    Dan: wrote: »
    In a few years all this will be forgotten about and the days of 100% and 6x mortgages will be back, and so will 10-15% YoY rises, because banks are greedy and only think about profits. In the next few years prices will fall a bit, and rise a bit but maintain the current level overall because the government and lenders cannot/will not allow a massive crash. and will do anything within their power to stop it from happening.

    The view that we'll experience large falls is more prevalent than what you've suggested. So please, enlighten me.
    The interest rate thing is comparative.

    Say, for example, you bought your place at 10%, and rates go up to 15%. Sounds horrible - and it is, but it's a rise of 50%.

    If you buy a house at 4% interest rates, 6% is a rise of 50%....

    Yup, and high unemployment followed the 1989 crash, not preceded it.
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  • Dan:_4
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    While we're at it, what's your evidence for this below?



    The view that we'll experience large falls is more prevalent than what you've suggested. So please, enlighten me.

    Just trying to balance things out a little.

    And look what happens on here if anybody suggests anything other then price falls!
  • Turnbull2000
    Turnbull2000 Posts: 1,807 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    Just trying to balance things out a little.

    And look what happens on here if anybody suggests anything other then price falls!

    Other than a few plebs on both sides, they usually back it up with some substance.

    In fact, the abuse is largely from the bulls these days.
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  • skap7309
    skap7309 Posts: 874 Forumite
    I wish I could note this post, so I could come back and laugh at the end of the year (-:

    Yeah, exactly what i was thinking/wishing to do! ;)
    Dan you are totally entitled to your opinion but have you been living in a darkened room for the last 12 months?
    Nearly all if not all the points you make seem WAY of the mark my friend.
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