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shellsuit

A gas safety check, which hasn't been done???

I am absolutely LIVID right at this moment.

Agents say it has been done......bloke is here looking at my boiler (problem with it AGAIN) and he has just told OH that he did it last time he was here (in Dec) which he bloody never!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

He sorted a problem with the boiler, he might have serviced that for all I know, BUT he didn't...

Check the gas fire
Check the gas meter and pipes (he's done this every year for the past 8 years, is this meant to be done????)
Check the gas hob

When he was here last time, my Dad was here, and signed what he thought was a job sheet. If the bloke is saying he did it last time he was here, then did my Dad sign a Gas check sheet????? What if he signed it and on it, it said all the work had been completed?!

I left a message with the agents last night to say I want a copy of it, but will they send me a copy?! Fk knows! :mad:

I am not gonna use the gas fire now, to hell with them.

Can I deduct a little money from my rent because there is NO way I'm gonna use the fire now while it hasn't been serviced, but apparently it has?! :rolleyes: :mad:

The last cert I have is from Dec 2006.

I'm in the bedroom on the PC now, the bloke is on the landing sorting the boiler and I just want to go out and lamp him one......I can't STAND liars :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

(OH doesn't live with me, so he can't really push and say anything before anyone asks why he hasn't and I hate dealing with workmen, that's why I always have my Dad or OH here when work needs to be done)

Arghhhhhhhhhhh!

clutton_2

calm down !!!! go down to the Agent tomorrow and dont leave till they GIVE you your Tenants copy of the CORGI landlords certificate. IF they produce it (read it carefully) and it says that the fire etc was done, then go back to the agent with a letter saying what was and what was not done. The tenant has to be provided with the CORGI certificate within 14 or 28 days, (i cannot quite remember)

if they dispute things, write to the LL - if you do not have his/her address, then write to LA for it and remind them that legally they have 21 days to provide you with the full name and address of fthe LL.

if you are seriously worried that they gas equipment is faulty - ring TRANSCO and they will at least find out if there is a leak

shellsuit

clutton wrote: »

calm down !!!! go down to the Agent tomorrow and dont leave till they GIVE you your Tenants copy of the CORGI landlords certificate. IF they produce it (read it carefully) and it says that the fire etc was done, then go back to the agent with a letter saying what was and what was not done. The tenant has to be provided with the CORGI certificate within 14 or 28 days, (i cannot quite remember)

if they dispute things, write to the LL - if you do not have his/her address, then write to LA for it and remind them that legally they have 21 days to provide you with the full name and address of fthe LL.

if you are seriously worried that they gas equipment is faulty - ring TRANSCO and they will at least find out if there is a leak

Thanks for the reply

Can't go to the agents until Friday morning, I'm working all day tomorrow and Thursday.

When I queried it with the office last time, they sent me a letter saying 'X confims there is a current Gas Cert', that was it!

They should have a copy anyway, so why not tell me when it was dated, or that THEY could confirm they had a current gas cert??

I'm not thinking the gas equipment is faulty, but I know it's a legal requirement to have an annual gas test/cert and the way the agents have treated and spoken to me in the past 2 years, it makes me wonder !!!!!! they are getting paid for.

MissMoneypenny

shellsuit wrote: »

They should have a copy anyway, so why not tell me when it was dated, or that THEY could confirm they had a current gas cert??

You should be given one of the copies (I think it is the green copy). If the agent or LL doesn't give it to you, you can phone your council, ask for private housing and tell them. It is not your job to remind the LL to get the gas cert. The LL has a legal obligation to have this done.

clutton_2

maybe the LL does not know the cavalier manner in which his LA is behaving ......

shellsuit

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

You should be given one of the copies (I think it is the green copy). If the agent or LL doesn't give it to you, you can phone your council, ask for private housing and tell them. It is not your job to remind the LL to get the gas cert. The LL has a legal obligation to have this done.

I'm meant to have the white copy, but I've always had a green one? (Says at bottom of them, white for tenant and green for landlord) EDIT : My old ones I should have green, but from 2003 onwards, I should have white, but still get green.

I rang the agents and left a phone message about the boiler and also requesting a copy of the gas cert. If I haven't received one by Friday morning, I'm going to go to the office and if they don't have one, I'll get straight onto the council.

The last time the bloke was here was the first week in Dec, so even if the gas cert just mentions the boiler, I should have had a copy by now shouldn't I?

shellsuit

clutton wrote: »

maybe the LL does not know the cavalier manner in which his LA is behaving ......

Oh they won't do, but if I mention how crap they are and insulting and rude and UNprofessional, it's only my word against the agents isn't it?

MissMoneypenny

The tenant copy should be given to them when the boiler is checked. Or for a new tenant, given to the tenant before they move in.

The key on the bottom of the Corgi Landlord's Gas Safety Record says the white is for the LL/Agent. Green for the tenant. Yellow copy for the installer.

Gorgeous_George

You cannot deduct money from the rent. I do not know of any reason when this is allowed or good advice.

There are three possible problems here. Either:
1) There is no gas safety certificate.
2) There is a certificate but it was not done properly.
or
3) There is a certificate, it was done properly but your information is incorrect.

The HSE (clicky) website confirms the 28 day requirement to issue a certificate to the tenant (see 'What are my duties as a landlord in relation to gas safety?'). If the check was done in December, there may still be time for the certificate to be issued.

If you believe the Corgi chap was incompetent, you could complain to CORGI. It may be difficult to prove but it is your call.

Any redress by way of compensation from the LL will be limited to the cost of providing a certificate. If you feel the need, why not arrange your own check and seek reimbursement from the LL.

My personal view is that this check should be the responsibility of the tenant. It is, after all, their lives that could be at risk (albeit a very small risk). The law obviously thinks tenants are incompetent and/or care little for their own safety. There is no law that says that owner-occupiers must have a GSC and no requirement for mortgage lenders to arrange one on their behalf. Still, the law is the law and that is good enough for me.

GG

MissMoneypenny

clutton wrote: »

maybe the LL does not know the cavalier manner in which his LA is behaving ......

The law is quite clear on this, that it is the LLs responsibility.

If the LL has been dim enough to get a LA that behaves in a cavalier manner, that that is LLs (very serious) problem, not the tenants.

shellsuit

Gorgeous_George wrote: »

You cannot deduct money from the rent. I do not know of any reason when this is allowed or good advice.

There are three possible problems here. Either:
1) There is no gas safety certificate. Guy told OH he gave one into the agents.
2) There is a certificate but it was not done properly. That's why I'm waiting for a copy of the cert as it could just have the boiler down on it, although all 3 should have been done. (boiler, hob and fire)
or
3) There is a certificate, it was done properly but your information is incorrect. What information could be incorrect? The hob and gas fire were not looked at, on the day the boiler was last serviced

The HSE (clicky) website confirms the 28 day requirement to issue a certificate to the tenant (see 'What are my duties as a landlord in relation to gas safety?'). If the check was done in December, there may still be time for the certificate to be issued. It was 'apparantly' done in the first week of Dec, so 2 weeks overdue.

If you believe the Corgi chap was incompetent, you could complain to CORGI. It may be difficult to prove but it is your call.

Any redress by way of compensation from the LL will be limited to the cost of providing a certificate. If you feel the need, why not arrange your own check and seek reimbursement from the LL. I'm a single Mother of 2 working for minimum wage. I don't have funds to pay for a check which I shouldn't have to organise and sort out in the first place.

My personal view is that this check should be the responsibility of the tenant. Are you joking?? It's a LEGAL requirement and is down to the LL or acting agent, NOT the tenant. It is, after all, their lives that could be at risk (albeit a very small risk). The law obviously thinks tenants are incompetent and/or care little for their own safety. There is no law that says that owner-occupiers must have a GSC and no requirement for mortgage lenders to arrange one on their behalf. Still, the law is the law and that is good enough for me.

GG

I'm not incompetent, again, it's a legal requirement which I should not arrange or pay for!! :rolleyes: