Failing to give information

uktyler

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chris147_2

You won't get six for failing to provide and three for speeding.

If you get six for the failing to provide information then chances are you'll be banned. Unfortunately loosing your job due to loss of licence isn't considered a hardship anymore.

I would have thought the best way is to attend court and actually get in the witness box and say that you never received the NIP but were the driver of the vehicle at the time in question. Hopefully that would defuse the situation but obviously you'd still get the three points and sixty quid fine.

You will have to plead to the summons you've received so probably best to do what I said above.

Hope it goes well.

anewman

chris147 wrote: »

Unfortunately loosing your job due to loss of licence isn't considered a hardship anymore.

That's the way it should be, w@nkers thinking they can get away with comitting offences as they'll get off with it because they have a job. If you can't learn the first, second or third time, you don't deserve to be on the road. Driving is a privelige, not a right.

chris147_2

anewman wrote: »

Driving is a privelige, not a right.

Totally agree. Too many people don't take responsibility for their driving.


It was in the paper the other day near me that someone had driven down a dual carriageway the wrong way (the other half was closed due to road works) and the womens excuse was "my sat nav told me to turn right".

Terrible, people need to learn that it is they who control the car.


Not having a go at you UKTyler. Just general banter!

Hintza

If the letter was not sent recorded then they can not prove you received it.
In our part of the world they all come recorded now. They have failed in their duty to notify you within the 14 day period. If I were you I would do some research and possibly employ the services of a solicitor.

By the way OP makes no mention of his job in his post.

LuciferTDark

Yes he did quote What are my chances of keeping my licence, as I drive for a living /quote

LuciferTDark

Actually it's very easy not to speed.

Badger_Lady

No, they can't prosecute you for speeding because they don't know who was driving. The "more serious" offence of "failing to provide information" merely replaces the speeding offence - it is not added to it.

It sounds like your only option is to submit a defence of "But I didn't receive it, guv!". There's no guarantee that this will work...

I was taken to Crown Court for the same offence (except I had filled in the form and they'd never received it), and my defence was "but I did send it, guv!".

I was found Not Guilty, but only really because the prosecutor was doing me a favour (which he got told off about). I should have been found guilty because I hadn't sent it by recorded delivery.

iolanthe07

Actually it's very easy not to speed.


Actually, it isn't - not if you're a courier doing 90,000 miles a year on unfamiliar roads where limits often change quite randomly for no apparent reason. There's a dual carriageway near me that's gone from 50 to 40 to 30 in a couple of years and it is very easy to make a mistake. Also, I'm not sure how Lucifer's post is supposed to help the OP.

Hintza

It always amazes me the number of saints that appear on threads like this, having never exceeded the speed limit!!??

"I just don't believe it!"

chris147_2

Hintza wrote: »

If the letter was not sent recorded then they can not prove you received it.
In our part of the world they all come recorded now. They have failed in their duty to notify you within the 14 day period. If I were you I would do some research and possibly employ the services of a solicitor.

That's completely incorrect. As soon as it is posted (even 1st class) it is deemed as served.

They don't have to prove you received it. It is up to you to prove you didn't.

I know given RM's reliability that's not good but that is the way it is I'm afraid. It's also a stated case.