Appealing against Incapacity Benefit ceasing

Fat_Fairy

grr, last time I took my husband to an assessment for his IB I was annoyed by the attitude there. I had to get a special pass key to use a loo in the building (as there wasn't one in the waiting area). I overheard the examiner, who hadn't realised I was in the room next to him, say to another "what shall I get this one on - the medical or the psychological?", and laughed as he said it :mad: . I knew he was talking about my husband who suffers with clinical Depression and Arthritis, as I also overheard him asking about the place where we lived at the time - it was 50 miles away from the centre we'd had to travel to and he'd never heard of it.

My husband did get enough points - he's been hospitalised for Depression and is hardly able to walk so I would've been amazed if he hadn't, but I won't forget the attitude :eek: . I am glad that they are weeding out the fraudsters but people with real problems feel bad enough without knowing they are being spoken and thought of that way by 'professionals'. Hmm, it makes me angry. Hope you sort this out soon.

AJB135

Hi ferret88

I am in a similar situation as you regarding Incapacity Benefit(for depression) stopping due to failed medical through the jobcentre. I got 9 points :mad: (I only need that extra point).

I sent the appeal papers in(went to CAB, to help me), and got a choice of either claiming Job Seekers Allowance or Income Support at a reduced rate.

I am now just waiting for the oral appeal date :sad: :sad: .

I know how you must be feeling regarding this, :grouphug: .

Good luck with your appeal.

Cheers AJB135

Chrysalis

I am curious as to why a benefit claimant can be prosecuted for lying but a medical examination doctor has no such threat for lying and as such they allowed to lie repeatedly.

I think some common sense would be for the claimant to verify a reports accuracy before its submitted by signing it, a unsigned medical report would be unadmissable.

stazi

Here's a copy of the guide that ATOS doctors have to follow.
It's 139 pages long, and there's no mention in it on how to lie!
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/medical/ibh/ibh.pdf

weymuffred

stazi wrote: »

Here's a copy of the guide that ATOS doctors have to follow.
It's 139 pages long, and there's no mention in it on how to lie!
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/medical/ibh/ibh.pdf

They dont have to learn how to lie!
They are experts at it, this is why I am dreading my appt tomorrow with the doc

shopaholic2

I have just received all my paperwork, as my inc ben has been stopped, after i have been recieving it since june 99!
I had to be examined by a dr at th job centre, and i cannot belive some of the things he has said, small things like "lives at home with wife" (i am a married mother of 2)
Also, my problem is that i have a narrow airway, crushed by a tumour in 98, and i cannot walk upstairs without becoming breathless, and distressed, he has said on the form "walked up 2 flights of stirs with no problems"
THERE ARE NO STAIRS IN THE EXAMINATION CENTRE!!!
And IF there were, and IF i had walked up them i would have been in severe pain and discomfort.
So, I am appealing at tribunal level, but dont hold out much hope, but i do want to complain to the company who sent this "dr" to examine me and has very blatantly lied about me.
how do i do that?
x

fleur

I've had clinical depression on/off for some years, diagnosed with breast cancer in 2006, the dwp wanted to know if it was left or right breast, for reasons only known to them!!!!! Lumpectomy August 2006 followed by chemotherapy then radiotherapy. I know that I'm going to fail this medical and that I cannot work full-time because I get exhausted so easily. I've looked for part-time work without any luck, but if I tell them that they would just pull my incapacity benefit. I'm dreading going for this medical as I've never been for one before and have no idea of what to expect.

Chrysalis

stazi wrote: »

Here's a copy of the guide that ATOS doctors have to follow.
It's 139 pages long, and there's no mention in it on how to lie!
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/medical/ibh/ibh.pdf

Its either lying, incompetant or the claimant is lying. I would think claimants that lie wouldnt feel so bad about it to post and talk about it with others and we all know the government is doing what they can to reduce welfare costs, I have also been on the end of the stick myself where I have had a genuine claim turned down so I far from trust the system.

Also bear in mind they hardly going to have a document on a public internet which says we tell our doctors to lie.

paisley_lass

I'm dreading going for this medical as I've never been for one before and have no idea of what to expect.

i know that feeling i just got letter today to go for medical (well actually dizzy postman put it through a neighbours door who accidently opened and read it) ...i have not been working since 2004 and have claimed IS since then but recently at job centre my advisor told me to apply for IB...now i have to go for medical and dont know how im gonna make it there as i have anxiety/agoraphobia.....on a good day i can manage to go to the shops but never too far away from my house and the thought of going into glasgow for this medical just makes me feel ill.

healy

paisley_lass wrote: »

i know that feeling i just got letter today to go for medical (well actually dizzy postman put it through a neighbours door who accidently opened and read it) ...i have not been working since 2004 and have claimed IS since then but recently at job centre my advisor told me to apply for IB...now i have to go for medical and dont know how im gonna make it there as i have anxiety/agoraphobia.....on a good day i can manage to go to the shops but never too far away from my house and the thought of going into glasgow for this medical just makes me feel ill.

It is possible to have a home visit but you would need to contact Medical Services and would need a letter from your Doctor to say it was necessary. I think sometimes they will pay for a taxi but this would need to arranged in advance.