Electrical Regs Part P who is right?

BobProperty

mercurystar999 wrote: »

If you have paid the fee, you do not now need to issue the certificate yourself. It is included within the fee paid. You do need to be a competent person which may be the stumbling block.

I don't think you do need to be a "competent person" because the BCO will check that the work complies with Part P. Bit of a technicality but the whole Part P / BR / BSxxxx is full of things like this.

Canucklehead

BobProperty wrote: »

But that having happened made it less likely that Part P would be dropped. Having said that, it's the way of the world, Share Fishermen and benefit systems anyone?

Good evening: Cue further changes in Building Regs then? http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=670011

Canucklehead

BobProperty

Canucklehead wrote: »

Good evening: Cue further changes in Building Regs then? http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=670011

Canucklehead

I would think it is covered already. (for instance, putting a header tank on an old door isn't "acceptable practise" is it?) Eliteheat pointed out that it changed a few years back (2004?) so the rules on the thermostat immersions exist. Making them retrospective would be very expensive and in some cases unnecessary. (take my mum's house, the tank is galvanised steel and is directly above the cylinder which is above the hall - this sort of failure is so extremely unlikely to happen in her case - and anyway I can't remember if I've replaced her immersion with a new one in the last few years)
I'd be happy to get lots of work like this but it would open floodgates of overcharging, scaremongering and unnecessary upgrades being forced on the unsuspecting public.
It's not covered by Part P either, is it?

flang

Whats stupid about this Part P regs is that it still allows a switch for the bathroom to be put on the wall directly outside the bathroom, meaning your still turn the light off with wet hands!

spark1

flang wrote: »

Whats stupid about this Part P regs is that it still allows a switch for the bathroom to be put on the wall directly outside the bathroom, meaning your still turn the light off with wet hands!

Part P, is a lot of crap full stop, when the niceic go and assess people, they are not allowed to ask technical questions about the regs, as long as the work meets the regs thats all whats needed, to be registered in the scheme. So wether your a qualified apprenticed trained Electrician makes no odds anymore. I could carry out work for someone else, they say they done the work, to be assessed and passed to join :rotfl:

BobProperty

spark1 wrote: »

..... I could carry out work for someone else, they say they done the work, to be assessed and passed to join :rotfl:

Which is how you could get into CORGI 30 years ago, so nothing has been learned in that time about "qualifications". :eek:

andrewmoorcroft

I have located a copy of the 16th edition regs. Can anyone who knows that a wall mounted light switch is not allowed in a room with a sink, toilet, running water etc (and is not a bath or shower room) and less than 3m away or otherwise, - please post the page/section etc details on here. If the switches are not allowed then my kitchen, utility room, garage and ensuite loo infringe the rules.

andrewmoorcroft

andrewmoorcroft wrote: »

I have located a copy of the 16th edition regs. Can anyone who knows that a wall mounted light switch is not allowed in a room with a sink, toilet, running water etc (and is not a bath or shower room) and less than 3m away or otherwise, - please post the page/section etc details on here. If the switches are not allowed then my kitchen, utility room, garage and ensuite loo infringe the rules.

Strange...... a hot subject yet 18 days later and none of the 'experts' have managed to post any reference to a rule that prohibits any type of electrical fitting in a room with water unless its a bath/shower room. Draw your own conclusions...

Canucklehead

Good morning: Try a post on the electricians' forum here... http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=8 ...experts galore there;)

HTH

Canucklehead

P.S. I'm not an expert but I'm married to one:D

weekendwarrior

spark1 wrote: »

Part P, is a lot of crap full stop, when the niceic go and assess people, they are not allowed to ask technical questions about the regs, as long as the work meets the regs thats all whats needed, to be registered in the scheme. So wether your a qualified apprenticed trained Electrician makes no odds anymore. I could carry out work for someone else, they say they done the work, to be assessed and passed to join :rotfl:

I agree 100%

Just another stealth tax, using electrical safety as an excuse to implement it.

I wonder how many back handers the NICEIC gave the government :eek: