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basic bread recipe in breadmaker! help!!!

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  • santer_2
    santer_2 Posts: 4,406 Forumite
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    Recent loaves have arrived with a sunken crust

    Have not changed method or ingredients

    Any clues

    It is a Panasonic SD-256

    Allinsons easy bake yeast sachet with allinsons premium very strong bread flour. Used with water, olive oil, salt and sugar
  • Could your yeast be getting near (or past) it's end date?
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  • santer_2
    santer_2 Posts: 4,406 Forumite
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    Feb 2013 for the yeast, Mar 2012 for the flour

    Maybe the olive oil - in date but perhaps butter is better?

    Have used the pizza dough setting, left it for an hour, looked in and it has risen correctly to the shape of a loaf, but after baking the crust has sunk

    Still tastes OK though
  • santer wrote: »
    Recent loaves have arrived with a sunken crust

    Have not changed method or ingredients

    Any clues

    It is a Panasonic SD-256

    Allinsons easy bake yeast sachet with allinsons premium very strong bread flour. Used with water, olive oil, salt and sugar

    This might assist. LINKY
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  • santer_2
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    That will be useful
  • Swan_2
    Swan_2 Posts: 7,060 Forumite
    the_cake wrote: »
    Hi alamaya
    Do try this recipe, it's lovely:

    250ml liquid: I use about 2/3 water and 1/3 milk
    30ml extra virgin olive oil (or see below)
    175g well drained tinned chick peas
    500g strong white bread flour
    1.5 teaspoons salt
    2 teaspoons sugar
    1 sachet easy blend dried yeast

    My BM is the Kenwood Rapid-Bake (£5 in a charity shop last year, and now my absolute favourite kitchen helper ..) I use programme 2, which is the basic large white loaf. The loaf comes out very light, moist and with a slightly nutty flavour, and little dark specks. To make it a bit cheaper, I often use vegetable or sunflower oil instead of the olive oil, and I was lucky to get some cheap tins of chick peas when they were on offer.
    Hope you enjoy it - let me know how it goes!
    PS Just drain the chick peas, rinse them briefly and chuck them in - the breadmaker mashes them up.
    Justamum wrote: »
    I made this the other day. I don't use a breadmaker so I whizzed up the chickpeas before putting them in. I didn't tell anyone that it was different from normal and nobody complained. It's a brilliant way of getting extra protein into people and is very tasty :T
    I tried this a while back when cake posted it in another thread & it is absolutely excellent, many thanks cake :)

    it does have a certain je ne sais quoi about it, but I'd defy anyone to work out what the secret ingredient is :D it has a lovely texture & makes fabulous toast ... highly recommended!
  • Swan_2
    Swan_2 Posts: 7,060 Forumite
    santer wrote: »
    Feb 2013 for the yeast, Mar 2012 for the flour

    Maybe the olive oil - in date but perhaps butter is better?

    Have used the pizza dough setting, left it for an hour, looked in and it has risen correctly to the shape of a loaf, but after baking the crust has sunk

    Still tastes OK though
    I'm reading that to mean you're using the pizza dough setting, allowing it to rise in the machine, then using the bake only setting?

    if that's what you're doing, it might be a very small variable in your timing that's causing the problem, BM's are not at all forgiving, even a few minutes too much or too little rising time can have a profound effect on the result

    do you have the same problem with the 'complete' programmes? if so, then it's more likely to be one of the issues outlined in Badrick's link


    hope you find out what's causing it, it's really disheartening when you lift that lid & the result isn't what you expect :(
  • santer_2
    santer_2 Posts: 4,406 Forumite
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    Will look at reducing the timing as I was going for a decent thickness of crust and rather brown
  • Swan_2
    Swan_2 Posts: 7,060 Forumite
    santer wrote: »
    Will look at reducing the timing as I was going for a decent thickness of crust and rather brown
    I think it's most likely to be the rising time that's the issue, if the dough over-proves it can result in a sunken top, so perhaps don't let it rise for quite so long before baking? there's a fine line between perfectly proved & 'over'

    you can still bake for the length of time you need to get a good crust :)

    have you tried any of the standard programmes from the recipe book? just thinking you might get more reliable results using something pre-programmed
  • santer_2
    santer_2 Posts: 4,406 Forumite
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    The first loaves were brilliant, beginners luck maybe, and haven't noticed a deviation from how I started off, with the exception of the olive oil which I got when it was going for half price
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