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Ceramic Tiles in Bathroom

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  • vista,

    as far as i can see, you have proved (by your own cut n pastes) that you tile outwith the adhesive manufacturers requirements..........unless i have missed something?


    This is why i like to see the correct advice given out here, so people do the job correctly.

    so, the advice you gave was wrong, so all i want to do is make sure the people who read this know its wrong.

    aint nothing wrong with that ;)
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  • BobProperty
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    Advice is wrong? which part of it?

    The bit where you lay 3mm ply. Show me a manufacturer who says it is OK.
    ....as i said we use tile to timber on 3mm ply. which part is wrong?

    The bit where you lay 3mm ply. Show me a manufacturer who says it is OK.
    ....also, adhesive manufacturers allows tiling straight on to various wooden surfaces (but we still titghening floor by using 3mm ply, so thats nothing wrong with that).

    Go and re-read my last post. The manufacturer, which you quoted, says that it has to be "sufficiently rigid" and "firmly screwed down", but won't define it except in contradictory terms. The definition I provided from another manufacturer is of a specification that could only be achieved by rebuilding the entire floor. Nowhere does it say that overboarding with 3mm ply is good enough.("Thats nothing wrong with that" may be true, but I could also say there's nothing right with that.) The only time overboarding is mentioned it is with 15mm ply.
    And please don't start teaching professionals ;)
    I won't go there, it's too easy; I'll let the reader decide.
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  • BobProperty
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    That's right, and we don't bother, the claim will pay out the insurance company, all we need to concentrate on is our own proven methods .....
    What's right? The manufacturer's info is contradictory? The guarantee is useless because the manufacturer will always be able to get out of it?
    Is a translation into English available of the above please? I can't make out what isn't being bothered about, who is claiming and who is insured here.
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  • BobProperty
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    ....As I said earlier: posts should be accurate (to allow us to provide exact information).....
    Missed this bit, so glad you agree. Just post the specification of what "sufficiently rigid" and "firmly screwed down" is then. To help you, please provide joist spacings, noggin spacings (if any), floor thicknesses (existing and new, if any), overboarding types and thicknesses, and fixing types and centres. Should be easy, you must do it all the time as a professional. Then match it to what manufacturers say (where possible).
    A house isn't a home without a cat.
    Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others.
    I have writer's block - I can't begin to tell you about it.
    You told me again you preferred handsome men but for me you would make an exception.
    It's a recession when your neighbour loses his job; it's a depression when you lose yours.
  • BobProperty
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    you are in the wrong place asking this info
    And there's no point picking on me now because you , can't you read that we don't do chippys work...
    So what do you do? Slap adhesive on any wood surface irrespective of the underlying preparation? OK Commercially you can expect the surface to be prepared to BS but don't you check? Domestically, which is where we started, you have to do it for yourself in most circumstances or are you saying that you'd get a chippy in to do the floor for you if you were doing a domestic bathroom?
    A house isn't a home without a cat.
    Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others.
    I have writer's block - I can't begin to tell you about it.
    You told me again you preferred handsome men but for me you would make an exception.
    It's a recession when your neighbour loses his job; it's a depression when you lose yours.
  • BobProperty
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    Are you in politics? Because you have yet to answer a question with a straight answer.
    Ofcourse we do check, we call this inspection. However, we do not count screws and stuff in the boards which is obvious, and in most houses it's impossible to see how thick the board is and even if it did not meet the BS, we would be unable to check it without ripping the floor. And do you really think that this is what customer will want?
    Imagine, customer asks for a quote for tiling bathroom floor, and you start ripping his floor to see if its 12 or 15 mm ply... and if it meets the BS.
    If I laid it I wouldn't need to ask would I? If I specified it and someone else laid it I'd know what they were specified to put down. Where's the need to go "ripping his floor"? You apparently never do any preparation work and it's all done for you to BS8021. (which may or may not be good enough for the adhesive manufacturer, which has been the main basis of my posts)
    So care to make up your mind?
    "we don't do chippys work"
    or
    "we still titghening floor by using 3mm ply"
    (even though I've yet to see a manufacturer say it's OK)
    A house isn't a home without a cat.
    Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others.
    I have writer's block - I can't begin to tell you about it.
    You told me again you preferred handsome men but for me you would make an exception.
    It's a recession when your neighbour loses his job; it's a depression when you lose yours.
  • handyman.
    handyman. Posts: 305 Forumite
    you still havent answered the issue.......we appear to be saying you are giving poor info to a diy tiler.

    It should be overlayed with 15mm ply, theres no argument with this fact. To say to overlay with 3mm ply isnt correct.

    Or to put it the way you would like it........15mm ply is more correct that 3mm ply........ LOL
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