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Civil Enforcement Parking Charge

Hi!

Can you please help and confirm if the below parking charge is POFA compliant? I have checked the newbies thread and wording on the POFA section 9. The charge was received via letter on 06.07.26, no windscreen shield. I am no expert and want to ensure I am not misunderstanding.

It references being issued under Schedule 4 of POFA 2012.

Paid for 2 hours parking but overstayed.

Thanks

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  • Woodstok2000
    Woodstok2000 Posts: 1,994 Forumite
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    edited 7 July at 6:28PM

    What do you think, and why? You will need to show both sides in full for anyone to check your reasoning.

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 165,570 Forumite
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    edited 7 July at 11:39PM

    "Can you please help and confirm if the below parking charge is POFA compliant?"

    It really doesn't matter because these are usually best ignored as there's no independent appeal.

    Also you can tell if a NTK is POFA worded or not (if you really want to) by comparing both sides of yours with the images in my NTK pictures thread.

    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • cooldude255220
    cooldude255220 Posts: 2,021 Forumite
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    @rlb194 you need to post both sides of the PCN.

    To be fair, from a quick glance it is actually a different version to any of the ones in the thread (note the scan to pay bit which I can't see on previous versions).

  • rlb194
    rlb194 Posts: 23 Forumite
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    Hi All,

    I have attached the back of the letter too.

    So I should not even appeal on their website? Or can I send the template set out in the newbies thread?

    Thanks

  • rlb194
    rlb194 Posts: 23 Forumite
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    I am appealing online just in case. This is their website appeals page:

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 165,570 Forumite
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    This firm were warned by Steve Clark of the BPA years ago (and by the DVLA) that appeals MUST NOT be conditional on saying whether an appellant was driving.

    Sigh… the BPA is so weak these days.

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  • rlb194
    rlb194 Posts: 23 Forumite
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    edited 20 August at 4:51PM

    I have now received the below letter:

    RESPONSE TO REPRESENTATION
    We refer to your recent correspondence.

    We have carefully reviewed the selected reason for appeal and the evidence provided in relation to this Parking
    Charge.

    The payment made did not cover the full duration of stay and the vehicle remained parked beyond the time
    permitted. It is the responsibility of the driver to ensure they adhere to the parking terms.

    It is therefore our position that the Parking Charge was correctly issued as a result of the driver’s breach of the
    terms and conditions displayed on the car park signage, specifically: Payment not made / permit not obtained in
    accordance with notified terms
    .On this occasion, your appeal has been unsuccessful for the and you have now reached the end of our internal
    appeals procedure.
    You now have two choices:

    1. Pay the original amount within 14 days beginning with the date of this letter. To make a payment please visit
      www.ce-service.co.uk.
    2. If you are not satisfied with our decision, you may appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (POPLA) via
      www.popla.co.uk using verification code xxxxxxxx within 28 days from the date on this letter. However, if
      you decide to appeal to POPLA, the full charge will apply if the appeal is not upheld in your favour. According to
      the latest data published by POPLA, which you can view at www.popla.co.uk/reports, between 1 October 2023
      to 30 September 2024, POPLA decided in favour of Civil Enforcement Limited and upheld the validity of the PCN
      in 88% of contested cases.

    You must now either pay the outstanding amount or appeal to POPLA but you cannot do both. If you do not
    choose either of the options above, we will seek to recover the outstanding sum by referring your case to a
    third-party debt recovery agent and may commence court action against you. This may incur additional costs
    for which you may be liable.

    By law we are also required to inform you that Ombudsman Services provides an alternative dispute resolution
    service that would be competent to deal with your appeal (www.ombudsman-services.org). However, we have
    not chosen to participate in their alternative dispute resolution service. Should you wish to appeal further you
    must do so to POPLA, as explained above.

    Yours faithfully,
    Appeals department

    Is it true that they are this successful with POPLA appeals? Should I just pay?

  • Castle
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    There's a 10 digit POPLA code left showing.

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 165,570 Forumite
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    edited 20 August at 11:01PM

    • Should I just pay?

    Don't be daft. My advice hasn't changed.

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  • rlb194
    rlb194 Posts: 23 Forumite
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    So just follow the POPLA appeals process? It does say 88% of appeals at POPLA are upheld in their favour?

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