Octopus Intelligent Go 6 hour changes being rolled out.

born_again

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81991378#Comment_81991378

What is odd is why it is just 3 manufactures, & not all?

paradigital

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81991397#Comment_81991397

Because those brands don’t allow for integration with Octopus via API. If you have an IOG compatible charger (including Ohme once they update the app) then it’s a none-issue, as the charger does the integration.

Ms_Chocaholic

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81990764#Comment_81990764

The 24 hour period runs from midday to midday I understand so this wouldn't happen I guess.

born_again

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81991713#Comment_81991713

Neither of the EV's we own allow API integration either (Kia & BYD) so why are they not included, along with all the others that are not.🤷‍♀️

This is why I went for a compatible charger.

QrizB

Neither of the EV's we own allow API integration either (Kia & BYD) so why are they not included, along with all the others that are not.

Car brands that aren't included in the Octopus API integration don't get mentioned because they aren't included in the integration.

BMW, Mini, and Polestar *are* included in the Octopus API integration, and you set your charge requirements via the car's native app. However these apps don't have a built-in feature to stop you from exceeding the 6-hour limit. The workaround is for the Octopus app to warn you if this is likely to happen, and for you to then change your charge target manually.

It's all explained in the Octopus message?

_Sam_

So If your solar panels generate 2.5kWh, your home uses 2kWh, and your car uses 3.2kWh... your smart meter will show that you pulled 2.7kWh from the grid to make up the difference. We will only bill you for that 2.7kWh, rather than the 3.2kWh your car charged.

If you’re charging on a blazing sunny afternoon and importing absolutely nothing from the grid, your bill is zero. Plus, that time won't count toward your 6-hour off-peak allowance!

Im not sure if they explained how do the 6 hours get calculated. When the car charges from solar, it would occasionally pull tiny amounts of electricity from the grid when the sun intensity fades before the charger adapts to it. So if this happens in a 30min period (the car pulls from the grid small amount for a minute or so) would that mean that the entire 30min has now been checked off the 6hrs allowance?

Apologies if I missed it anywhere

QrizB

Im not sure if they explained how do the 6 hours get calculated

Your car gets six hours of off-peak charging between 12 noon and 12 noon.

When the car charges from solar, it would occasionally pull tiny amounts of electricity from the grid when the sun intensity fades before the charger adapts to it. So if this happens in a 30min period (the car pulls from the grid small amount for a minute or so) would that mean that the entire 30min has now been checked off the 6hrs allowance?

If that period is smart charging, chargeable at the off-peak tariff, it all counts. If it's boost charging, at the peak tariff, none of it counts.

pete-20-11

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81995199#Comment_81995199

I believe that it the car charges for 10 minutes they take 10 minutes off the 6 hour countdown. Not 30 minutes.

_Sam_

@QrizB thank you yes my question is about the off-peak charging time. But what do you mean by ‘it all counts’?

_Sam_

I believe that it the car charges for 10 minutes they take 10 minutes off the 6 hour countdown. Not 30 minutes.

Pete thank you that would be good if so, I just don’t see where they explain it (either in the past or the recent announcement.)

I also wasn’t sure if they have this capability to identify the exact number of minutes the car pulled from the grid within a 30min period? Given that smart meter reports in 30min chunks, and the charger would report that the car was charging for the entire 30min (though only 10 of these minutes were from the grid but would the Octopus be able to see this?)