We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Logging in without passwords or administrator

peter021072
peter021072 Posts: 536
Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
Forumite
edited 3 May at 10:43AM in Techie Stuff

I have a Windows 11 desktop computer

In an attempt to remove a pin when starting up my desktop, I've created more problems.

It started asking me for the microsoft password instead. So I attempted to remove this. However it only allowed me to highlight a separate administrator account I rarely use, so I removed the password on this. On restarting it defaulted to the administrator account and told me it couldn't find the password. Somewhere along the line it's created another admin account!

Do I need to get rid of the two admin accounts first, to keep it simple? Then tackle the original problem? What's the easiest way of doing this?

Thanks for any help on this.

«13

Comments

  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 33,238
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Forumite

    Local account and leave the password box empty? I setup a win 11 virtual machine a few months back and
    I did not set a password for the login.

    I do have one on the main PC though.

    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 27,300
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Forumite

    Do you need anything on the PC, or are you happy to reinstall windows and rely on your backups?

    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • grumpycrab
    grumpycrab Posts: 5,045
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Bake Off Boss!
    Forumite

    What accounts do you have now? "peter" the original one, admin1 and admin2 ?

  • peter021072
    peter021072 Posts: 536
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Forumite
    edited 3 May at 7:37PM

    Yes, that's it. I can get around the problem for now by not shutting down (ever), so it goes into sleep mode. The correct (my name) account will appear without asking for PIN or password as originally intended.

    In response to the first post, I wouldn't dare reinstall windows. Every time I try to fix a problem, it leads to a bigger one. I've been backing up most of the important files this pm, I don't have an image of the computer though which will save all the settings, this is too involved.

    Hang on, I've just realised, can I restore the computer to an earlier time (I only changed this yesterday), will this at least get me back to where it just asks me for a pin to the correct (non admin) account on starting?

  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 27,300
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Forumite

    I strongly suggest that you back up everything you need before trying anything else.

    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Newcad
    Newcad Posts: 2,145
    1,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    Forumite

    You could temporatily login as the 'hidden' super administrator to manage the unwanted admin accounts.

    Open a comnand/powershell/terminal window using 'Open as administrator' and type in:

    net user administrator /active:yes

    Restart (not Shutdown) the computer and it should give you the choice to login as user "Administrator", no password is needed.

    You should never leave that super admin mode active (that woul be a major security risk, particularly as it has no password and high access privileges); so once you have done what you need to as the hidden super admin then open the elevated command etc. window again and repeat the comnand but with:

    net user administrator /active:no

    Then Restart the machine again.

  • peter021072
    peter021072 Posts: 536
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Forumite
    edited 3 May at 9:08PM

    I need a bit more detailed instruction how to do this.

    Using a youtube video I've tried to disable the hidden administrator by

    Right-click Start -> Command Prompt (Administrator).
    then entering the command:
    net user administrator /active:no
    Enter.

    It says the action has been completed successfully.

    But administrator doesn't disappear from the selection menu. It defaults to it every time on start up.

  • Newcad
    Newcad Posts: 2,145
    1,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    Forumite
    edited 4 May at 7:36AM

    Are you still logged in as the hidden administrator when you are trying to disable it?

    If so then logout and select and login as another user, then open a command window as administrator and disable it from that other user.

  • peter021072
    peter021072 Posts: 536
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Forumite

    It appears that I corrupted windows by restoring to an earlier date, but I suspect it was partly corrupted before that. In the end I had to use a professional outfit to install a clean version. At least it might fix the other problem of unscheduled restarts which has plagued my computer for several years, although I still suspect a hardware/mains interaction issue.

  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 27,300
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Forumite

    Did they install it for you without a PIN?

    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
★ ★ ★ Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 355.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 456.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 248.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 605.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 179K Life & Family
  • 263.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.