Bathroom light

molerat

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81951172#Comment_81951172

If it has the standard "shavers only" on it then that is all it should really be used for as they are designed for intermittent use only and being used for extended periods could cause the transformer to overheat. For toothbrush charging you should use one that is designed for that purpose with a toothbrush logo on it and also does not state "shavers only".

Emmia

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81951368#Comment_81951368

I've never seen a shaver socket with a toothbrush symbol, and the chargers come with shaver socket plugs...

bjorn_toby_wilde

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81951373#Comment_81951373

They do exist.

@molerat is right but I think the risk is of burning it out is very low if you simply use the toothbrush then put it back on the charger. It’s only charging it for a very short time then and the current draw is very low.

Many (most?) shavers are rechargeable now so even a shaver could be charging for an extended period of time. Not many people are standing in front of a mirror shaving with a shaver plugged in any more.

WIAWSNB

Absolutely.

It has never ever occured, ever, that a 'shaver socket' has overheated due to it being used for a shaver, recharging a shaver, toothbrush, recharging a toothbrush, water flosser, recharging a water flosser, phone, recharging a phone, Bluetooth speaker, recharging a Bluetooth speaker, or similar.

Ever.

Probably.

Ok, I'm wrong.

It's an interesting one, as rechargeable toothbrushes and flossers typically come with the 2-pronged plug, clearly designed for shaver sockets. Anyone read the bumph to see if they caution against socket type? But, yes, there are cases out there of sockets seemingly overheating.

Now, Badger, you got that darned cover off yet?

Emmia

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81951550#Comment_81951550

I charge the toothbrush weekly (when it needs juice) not daily.

I've checked the shaver sockets we have including one as part of a cabinet installed around a year ago, none of them have a toothbrush symbol - given it must be a common usage of these plugs, I'm surprised that it's not a standard thing. I'm sure they probably exist, but if they do they must be in the minority of plugs.

I also looked at the Screwfix website. That has 6 pages of shaver sockets, some single voltage, some dual voltage, some with USB slots* - none of them appear to have a toothbrush symbol, they all appear to say "Shavers only". Searching for "toothbrush" just brings up wall mounted beakers...

*There are loads of things that are USB chargeable that I wouldn't charge in a bathroom...

bjorn_toby_wilde

You’re right. The toothbrush and shaver ones are more like a platform with charger.

https://www.toolstation.com/proofvision-pv12p-shaver-sockettoothbrush-charger-white/p30634?store=null&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17804788224&gbraid=0AAAAAD-vLcVWUU6xs1vlfjc56_xZAWK2V&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI07uMmvXYkwMVC5BQBh11lALMEAQYASABEgK0EPD_BwE

We have two toothbrushes plugged into shaver sockets inside bathroom cabinets. A quick memory check tells me they’ve been plugged in for 8 and 10 years respectively without issue. I’m not going to worry about them.

WIAWSNB

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81951746#Comment_81951746

I ain't going to worry about mine either. But, there are cases, which I found by Googling, of overheating when used with rechargeable toothbrushes.

I suspect it's as said above - the 'sit-on' chargers have such an extra loss due to the physical charging gap, that they draw a lot more power than is actually required for charging the battery. So whereas you'd imagine a toothbrush having, if anything, a smaller-capacity battery than a shaver, it may well draw a higher current - and for longer - to charge it.

Anyhoo - BADGER! THE COVER!

badger09

WOW

You guys must have had a very quiet Easter!

Thanks for all the suggestions but rather than reply individually I’ll do a ‘send to all’

I checked the cover wasn’t stuck with paint by ‘flossing’ with some shirring elastic but there was no resistance, so not stuck. I couldn’t get a vac or hairdryer close enough as the gap between cover & ceiling is only a few mm.
I tried screwing cover anticlockwise both with & without rubber gloves and grunts! My son also tried, but I forgot to mention the need to grunt.

There are no switches or locks and congratulations to those who spotted correctly the reflections of the extractor fan & isolator switch.

It’s still firmly stuck & I’m flummoxed. The dead insects make it look dirty. Son said nobody will see them but they’re very obvious when the lights on! I think I’m going to have to break it to get them out but we have family using the ensuite at the weekend. I don’t have time to find a new one, fit it & touch up the ceiling so hope they’d rather have a few dead insects than a smashed ceiling light.

Interesting side discussion on shaver & toothbrush charging sockets. We have 2 illuminated bathroom mirrors with shaver sockets which we use to charge both an electric shaver & rechargeable toothbrushes. We don’t leave anything plugged in once charged, but I wasn’t aware of a potential problem.

WIAWSNB

Ok, one more attempt - this time insert a flat-bladed object between the chrome ring and the plastic base, and give it a twist or prise - the chrome ring might simply be push-on.

Choose a side away from the sightline, just in case you mark the fitting doing this :-)

I think you'll find very quickly whether it's a goer - if the chrome rings shows any movement as you insert and move the blade, then good chance that's all it needs. A screwed-on ring is unlikely to 'gap' doing this.

Spikeygran

One last try. I wonder if you put on a rubber glove, and place your hand flat on the glass part with fingers spread out, then push up slightly and twist anticlockwise. I've had a couple of things that opened that way, and just wondered after all the attempts whether you are gripping the fixed part of the light??

Before you loose patience with it and the flies, can you remember where you got it? Ledbrite ones look very similar on amaz*n? If you can identify it I'm sure someone at the brand customer services could give you a link to the leaflet or advice on opening it.

Honestly thats why I went for old fashioned globe, theres just 3 finger screws you loosen slightly. Its been made the same way since the 50's so I've had some practice with this model. I can get hubby to pass it down and have it washed, dried and back up in 10 minutes.