Upgrading from FTTP, few questions

bobblebob

Finally about to put the request in with my ISP to upgrade from FTTC to FTTP. From what i can gather it does work quite differently to ADSL/FTTC so just a couple of queries

1 - I understand with FTTP it either works or doesnt, and the speed coming into your house will be the full speed, that is the limited by whatever package you sign up to with your ISP. So does that remove the old syncing speeds, signal to noise margins etc at the exchange that traditional copper cables used to have?

2 - Im planning on having my own router 20m from the ONT just for easy of use. My current router is a modem/router combined, so do i just plug the ethernet cable into the WAN port on the router and this "disables" the built in modem, as the ONT is now effectively the modem?

Thanks

iniltous

1.Yes

2.Depends , your own equipment may work , if it doesn’t it’s not your providers problem as they will almost certainly provide a router that will work, you would need to do some research into your router to see if it is compatible or not , it’s not that likely that it will be ‘plug and play’ , but may be configurable.

bobblebob

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81876995#Comment_81876995

Thanks

The router is old but is compatible with FTTP from what i have read.

The ISP do offer to supply one but charge an extra £6 a month, so cheaper to just use my current one, or buy my own anyway

35har1old

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6654552/upgrading-from-fttp-few-questions

Things may have moved on since I switched but have you asked your provider if digital voice is available ? I lost the phone connection

You may have to provide the cable to the router as the usual cable supplied is 2M

You also need a spare socket adjacent to supply power

Are you overhead or underground?

If underground is your master socket in a suitable position and is it ducted to the underground box?

bobblebob

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81877138#Comment_81877138

Im not bothered about digital voice as dont use the landline anyway for phone service. And yea happy to buy my own cable

Its a first FTTP install so not sure how the fibre will come in, i know there has been works on the overheads cables so suspect its overhead but have a spare socket where i want the ONT

shiraz99

Who are you going with for fibre. A lot will depend on who the ISP is?

Vitor

Unless an alt-net has installed their own fibre, it's always OpenReach who install the FTTP infrastructure.

A combined VDSL modem/router was designed primarily to terminate a copper DSL line. Even if it has an Ethernet WAN mode, the routing hardware, NAT throughput and Wi-Fi performance may be very dated compared with current standalone routers. I'd replace with a new router designed for FTTP which is usually cleaner and avoids odd configuration compromises, something like ASUS RT-BE82U

bobblebob

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81879824#Comment_81879824

Currently with Pulse8 so keeping with them

bobblebob

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81880086#Comment_81880086

My current provider (Pulse8) work with various alt-nets and also Openreach so hard to tell which i will be on

Im only going to pay for the 80/20 package, i don't at the minute need faster. So dont neee a cutting edge router. My current one is wifi5

shiraz99

@bobblebob have you looked at other providers to get fibre. I'm sure if you shop around you may get a better deal with router provided rather than having to pay extra for one. How much are they charging for your 80/20 product, which will likely be provided via Openreach so will likely come in the same way as your current copper line.

iniltous

I’ve seen your posts on another forum, where you outline the costs of your preferred provider , any reason why you are so keen on them ? , as a comparison BT 150Mb ( so nearly twice as fast download ) , a router provided , an £85 BT reward card , for £29 a month , admittedly goes up £4 in March and another £4 March 2027 , seems a much superior deal , and that’s BT , not the cheapest provider out there.