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Trying to get my Dad out of care home but bank account frozen - a real mess

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  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 12,809 Forumite
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    [donor = the person whose LPA it is]
  • Barkin
    Barkin Posts: 926 Forumite
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    edited 14 January at 5:17PM
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    In addition to the comments from elsien above... that's just a checklist, to assist in completing the form.

    Nowhere does the donor sign to say that they've completed the form themselves.
  • TimeLord1
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    It's the social services who can veto anything unless a care package is funded and in place.
    And that is hard to obtain.
  • SacredStephan
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    brianposter said:
    That is my point because, in my recollection, the subject of the LPA signs that they have filled in the form.
    However, in our case, it did not appear that anybody checked.
    I'm looking at an LPA signed by the Donor (not subject) in 2016. The Donor signed in Section 9, witnessed by the Certificate Provider. The donor signed once, before the Cert Provider and the Attorneys signed subsequent Sections. The form may have changed since 2016.
  • brianposter
    brianposter Posts: 1,668 Forumite
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    It remains pretty clear that the form says that it has to be filled in by the the donor, and my recollection is that the form I dealt with required the donor to sign to that effect.
    This is presumably some sort of !!!!!!-up, but it is worth drawing to peoples attention in case they read the form carefully.
  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 37,653 Forumite
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    The form  specifically references “if you are filling in the form for a friend or relative”
    fairly sure that wouldn’t be on there if it wasn’t allowed. 




    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 24,736 Forumite
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    It remains pretty clear that the form says that it has to be filled in by the the donor, and my recollection is that the form I dealt with required the donor to sign to that effect.
    This is presumably some sort of !!!!!!-up, but it is worth drawing to peoples attention in case they read the form carefully.

    Can someone help you fill in the form?

    Yes. However, if anyone else is filling the form in for you, you must still choose what goes into your LPA. Only you can give others the power to make decisions with your LPA on your behalf.


    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/make-a-lasting-power-of-attorney/lp12-make-and-register-your-lasting-power-of-attorney-a-guide-web-version#correcting-mistakes

  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 37,653 Forumite
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    And you are signing to say you have read of had it read to you. Not that you have written it.


    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • Barkin
    Barkin Posts: 926 Forumite
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    It remains pretty clear that the form says that it has to be filled in by the the donor, 
    No, it doesn't. The checklist that you're referring to is just that - a checklist.

    It isn't part of the form, which is stated quite clearly at the bottom of the page...
  • brianposter
    brianposter Posts: 1,668 Forumite
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    So why is that line on the form if you are expected to ignore it ?
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