Can you do this Social Test for me please?

bob2302

NotArobot24 said:

Thanks for further replies, I do accept that there are many additional factors, things like copper to the door, 

The reason I chose latency is because I used to work in an environment where we tested networks, intranet, servers, PC's graphics cards, CPU's, Memory, Databases and application for a city firm when they felt that a nanosecond delay cost them money. Not the delay itself but the cascading effect of that delay.

 

That's a completely different matter, companies that do automated trading place their servers physically close to the exchange servers and pay extra for microwave links because they are faster than light in glass. This is a very specific use case.

As I said most broadband is provided by openreach, aside from choosing a bitrate and switching to FTTP, it's a commodity, like electricity and gas.

Newcad

In the end if your connection is sufficient to do what you want to do without swearing at the screen then it's good enough.

Why pay more for broadband that is "faster"* than you need?

*It's not actually faster, it's more capacity so more people can use it at once.

(A bus can carry more people per second than a car can, but doesn't get there any faster).

Heedtheadvice

To be devil's advocate  😀

...my car is on the drive and I can get going on a direct fast route quickly but I would have to wait about two hours to get onto a bus and it goes a long way round......though it would be cheaper!

MattMattMattUK

Heedtheadvice said:

To be devil's advocate  😀

...my car is on the drive and I can get going on a direct fast route quickly but I would have to wait about two hours to get onto a bus and it goes a long way round......though it would be cheaper!

Latency in a motoring comparison would be throttle or braking response time, top speed would be comparable to download speed. Anything less than 200ms would be imperceptible for almost anyone outside of professional racing drivers. Throttle response on an F1 car is 10-15ms depending on current revs, well below human perceptibility. 

Ultimately with human perceptibility in a young (under 18) person, trained and in perfect health their conscience perception time is a minimum of 100ms, most adults it sits around 180ms and in healthy but older adults it can be 240ms. The OP's premise that having 20ms vs <5ms is making their internet browsing slower is objectively and scientifically incorrect, at best it could be a psychological placebo. 

JSmithy45AD

NotArobot24 said:

Thanks for further replies, I do accept that there are many additional factors, things like copper to the door, quality of wiring, age and quality of router, wired or wireless.

The reason I chose latency is because I used to work in an environment where we tested networks, intranet, servers, PC's graphics cards, CPU's, Memory, Databases and application for a city firm when they felt that a nanosecond delay cost them money. Not the delay itself but the cascading effect of that delay.

Obviously broadband is a very different situation with many moving parts, but I have found latency to be a key factor in what "feels" responsive.
 

You say you accept that there are a multitude of factors that will affect one persons latency from another, and yet you keep ignoring that and ask the same question over and over? Social tariff BB is simply speed capped with no limits placed on any other parameter.

On your original thread you were asked what BB you are currently on but you kept dodging the question strangely, what exactly do you get now? What speed and latency? Who with?

You also say that you can only afford to pay the social tariff and faster internet is beyond your means at the moment at least so what difference does latency make to you if that is all that is available to you?

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