'WASPI' women latest: Government to review decision to refuse compensation

Ibrahim5

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eskbanker

Ibrahim5 said:

You should not swill champagne, as it will ruin the bubbles and the drinking experience. It's better to sip champagne to appreciate its flavor and effervescence

Are you sure you're not an IFA?

Universidad

Pollycat said:

So - one wonders what WASPI meant by "fair transitional state pension arrangements for women born in the 1950s (born on or after 6th April 1951)". 🤔

They didn't put a page up about what their ask actually was until 2019 as far as I can see. Here they expanded on what "fair transitional state pension arrangements" meant: 

"This translates into a ‘bridging’ pension to provide an income until State Pension Age, not means-tested, and with recompense for losses for those women who have already reached their SPA."

In other words, "you can put the state pension up for women, just not for us women". 

Eventually they became even more strident:

"WASPI calls on the Government to agree fair and fast compensation... to reflect their financial losses,
the sustained damage to their mental health and well-being, and the additional impacts."

I might be biased, but I'd translate that as "We want our state pension paid backdated from age 60, and we want extra now, as well". 

Pollycat

Universidad said:

Pollycat said:

So - one wonders what WASPI meant by "fair transitional state pension arrangements for women born in the 1950s (born on or after 6th April 1951)". 🤔

They didn't put a page up about what their ask actually was until 2019 as far as I can see. Here they expanded on what "fair transitional state pension arrangements" meant: 

"This translates into a ‘bridging’ pension to provide an income until State Pension Age, not means-tested, and with recompense for losses for those women who have already reached their SPA."

In other words, "you can put the state pension up for women, just not for us women". 

Eventually they became even more strident:

"WASPI calls on the Government to agree fair and fast compensation... to reflect their financial losses,
the sustained damage to their mental health and well-being, and the additional impacts."

I might be biased, but I'd translate that as "We want our state pension paid backdated from age 60, and we want extra now, as well". 

I definitely remember their 'ask' being way different from that detailed in their petition.
So I'm fairly sure that their 'ask' was very clear before the Parliament debates because I remember asking for my support to the petition to be removed after reading the WASPI website..
The petition was closed and then debated  on 1/2/2016.

Your take on WASPI's 'ask' is the same as mine.

Qyburn

Why was it limited to women born between those years? Why aren't they speaking up for women born in the 60s or later, who also won't get their pensions age 60?  After all someone born in 1979 would have reached working age before the change.

Qyburn

Brie said:

For a woman who has never dealt with finances, assumed her husband would provide for her in her old age and to suddenly discover at age 60 that she wasn't going to get a pension for a few more years would have been a big shock. 

Not sure what the point is. If the example woman was relying on her husband to oversee arrangements and to keep her informed, then surely the mythical "personal individually addressed" letter needed to be sent to the husband.

BlackKnightMonty

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BikingBud

Qyburn said:

Brie said:

For a woman who has never dealt with finances, assumed her husband would provide for her in her old age and to suddenly discover at age 60 that she wasn't going to get a pension for a few more years would have been a big shock. 

Not sure what the point is. If the example woman was relying on her husband to oversee arrangements and to keep her informed, then surely the mythical "personal individually addressed" letter needed to be sent to the husband.

Which perpetuates the intolerable concept of "kept women"!

jem16

The original Waspi “ask” as detailed to Frank Field on the Work and Pensions Select Committee was that they wanted all women born on or after 6th April 1951 and before end of the 1950s to be put back into the same position as if they were born before 6th April 1950.

So they didn’t want to reverse the SPA to 60 for every woman. They wanted 1950s’ women to still receive their pension at age 60 and to hang with everyone else.

The dates of those affected and “asks” have changed over the years as they realised they weren’t going to get what they originally wanted.