Getting the right size upvc door handle.

Slinky

B0bbyEwing said:

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

WIAWSNB said:

Hi Bobby.
You didn't think this was going to be simple, did you? Oh dear...
That looks like a Eurocylinder. They are great, as they are one size - in end profile. But they vary in both overall width (Ie length) and 'offset', Ie the distance between the locking part - the wee nobby thing that comes out, and which I presume sits in the dead centre of the door - and the two ends of the lock.
Most appear to be symmetrical, but others are deffo not.
So, you don't buy a 'Eurocylinder', but you buy one with the required dims.
Q - do you still have the old one? Great - simple measurements required.
Another Q - do you like the idea of a thumb-turn on the inside, if you don't have one already? They are both easier to use, and also safer if you need to exit in a hurry.

Unfortunately thumbturns aren’t as secure if there’s a letter box in the door.

Actually considering a thumb turn due to the number of times the OH insists on leaving her key in the lock in a way in which stops me from unlocking the door when I get home. 

Then I read about what you just mentionedive trialled it out myself, trying to get my hand through but it's flipping hard & I don't think I have particularly meaty hands. 

Maybe a small child could do it. 

You could fit one of those cages for catching the letters to stop someone getting their hand through. The sort of thing people who have dogs who eat the post use.

bjorn_toby_wilde

B0bbyEwing said:

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

WIAWSNB said:

Hi Bobby.
You didn't think this was going to be simple, did you? Oh dear...
That looks like a Eurocylinder. They are great, as they are one size - in end profile. But they vary in both overall width (Ie length) and 'offset', Ie the distance between the locking part - the wee nobby thing that comes out, and which I presume sits in the dead centre of the door - and the two ends of the lock.
Most appear to be symmetrical, but others are deffo not.
So, you don't buy a 'Eurocylinder', but you buy one with the required dims.
Q - do you still have the old one? Great - simple measurements required.
Another Q - do you like the idea of a thumb-turn on the inside, if you don't have one already? They are both easier to use, and also safer if you need to exit in a hurry.

Unfortunately thumbturns aren’t as secure if there’s a letter box in the door.

Actually considering a thumb turn due to the number of times the OH insists on leaving her key in the lock in a way in which stops me from unlocking the door when I get home. 

Then I read about what you just mentionedive trialled it out myself, trying to get my hand through but it's flipping hard & I don't think I have particularly meaty hands. 

Maybe a small child could do it. 

I think they use a piece of wire or a lever.

B0bbyEwing

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

B0bbyEwing said:

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

WIAWSNB said:

Hi Bobby.
You didn't think this was going to be simple, did you? Oh dear...
That looks like a Eurocylinder. They are great, as they are one size - in end profile. But they vary in both overall width (Ie length) and 'offset', Ie the distance between the locking part - the wee nobby thing that comes out, and which I presume sits in the dead centre of the door - and the two ends of the lock.
Most appear to be symmetrical, but others are deffo not.
So, you don't buy a 'Eurocylinder', but you buy one with the required dims.
Q - do you still have the old one? Great - simple measurements required.
Another Q - do you like the idea of a thumb-turn on the inside, if you don't have one already? They are both easier to use, and also safer if you need to exit in a hurry.

Unfortunately thumbturns aren’t as secure if there’s a letter box in the door.

Actually considering a thumb turn due to the number of times the OH insists on leaving her key in the lock in a way in which stops me from unlocking the door when I get home. 

Then I read about what you just mentionedive trialled it out myself, trying to get my hand through but it's flipping hard & I don't think I have particularly meaty hands. 

Maybe a small child could do it. 

I think they use a piece of wire or a lever.

Ah right. 

The whole finding your key in the event of a fire isn't an issue for us anyway. We always leave the key near the door. 

WIAWSNB

Bobby, do you have the old lock? 

If not, could you first check the outside face of that lock is fine - it's flush?

Ok, now try and measure how far inset the inside face is. If you don't have a measuring device that'll go in there, then use anything such as a matchstick to touch the lock face, and mark off the handle face on its side. 

Then remove the lock - one central bolt - and measure it; overall length, and distance from latch centre to each face (get the faces the right way around!)

Add the matchstick's depth to the inside face, and use these dims to obtain the correct Euro. 

Shove the old one back in whilst you find the correct size.

Is there a letterbox near the handle? If not, or if you'll consider fitting a letter-catching box over it, then do consider a thumb-turn. They are far easier to use each night, and will be a darn sight easier to use in an emergency.