Getting the right size upvc door handle.

shiraz99

The problem isn't the door handle but your lock barrel/cylinder. These can be adjusted.

gefnew

shiraz99 said:

The problem isn't the door handle but your lock barrel/cylinder. These can be adjusted.

No they cannot as they come in pre set sizes  and or with different types of offsets.

FrugaiMacDugal

B0bbyEwing said:



With the old one, the barrel was flush with the handle. This one is obviously 'deeper' and so the end of the barrel is inside the door handle casing.

Maybe an anti-snapping feature.

WIAWSNB

Hi Bobby.
You didn't think this was going to be simple, did you? Oh dear...
That looks like a Eurocylinder. They are great, as they are one size - in end profile. But they vary in both overall width (Ie length) and 'offset', Ie the distance between the locking part - the wee nobby thing that comes out, and which I presume sits in the dead centre of the door - and the two ends of the lock.
Most appear to be symmetrical, but others are deffo not.
So, you don't buy a 'Eurocylinder', but you buy one with the required dims.
Q - do you still have the old one? Great - simple measurements required.
Another Q - do you like the idea of a thumb-turn on the inside, if you don't have one already? They are both easier to use, and also safer if you need to exit in a hurry.

bjorn_toby_wilde

FrugaiMacDugal said:

B0bbyEwing said:



With the old one, the barrel was flush with the handle. This one is obviously 'deeper' and so the end of the barrel is inside the door handle casing.

Maybe an anti-snapping feature.

 No, unfortunately that barrel’s about 5mm too short. They should fit flush and not stick out.

bjorn_toby_wilde

WIAWSNB said:

Hi Bobby.
You didn't think this was going to be simple, did you? Oh dear...
That looks like a Eurocylinder. They are great, as they are one size - in end profile. But they vary in both overall width (Ie length) and 'offset', Ie the distance between the locking part - the wee nobby thing that comes out, and which I presume sits in the dead centre of the door - and the two ends of the lock.
Most appear to be symmetrical, but others are deffo not.
So, you don't buy a 'Eurocylinder', but you buy one with the required dims.
Q - do you still have the old one? Great - simple measurements required.
Another Q - do you like the idea of a thumb-turn on the inside, if you don't have one already? They are both easier to use, and also safer if you need to exit in a hurry.

Unfortunately thumbturns aren’t as secure if there’s a letter box in the door.

B0bbyEwing

FrugaiMacDugal said:

B0bbyEwing said:



With the old one, the barrel was flush with the handle. This one is obviously 'deeper' and so the end of the barrel is inside the door handle casing.

Maybe an anti-snapping feature.

That's one way of looking at it

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

FrugaiMacDugal said:

B0bbyEwing said:



With the old one, the barrel was flush with the handle. This one is obviously 'deeper' and so the end of the barrel is inside the door handle casing.

Maybe an anti-snapping feature.

 No, unfortunately that barrel’s about 5mm too short. They should fit flush and not stick out.

Well it certainly isn't sticking out.

chrisw

I wouldn't worry about it tbh, and just leave it as it is. It's not causing an issue and may be more secure being recessed.

Boohoo

chrisw said:

I wouldn't worry about it tbh, and just leave it as it is. It's not causing an issue and may be more secure being recessed.

Only issue I could see is does the key fit all the way into the lock ok?

If it does and turns ok then you can leave it as it is.

I had an old back door that needed the handle changed and it was bigger than the old handles and one original key was ok but the copied key has a different more square part where the turn and wouldn't turn as not fully in the lock as we found out one when we came home one night from holiday and she had taken the wrong keys out and I had to ask the neighbour for our spare front door key at midnight.

The key worked ok on the inside but not the outside.

B0bbyEwing

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

WIAWSNB said:

Hi Bobby.
You didn't think this was going to be simple, did you? Oh dear...
That looks like a Eurocylinder. They are great, as they are one size - in end profile. But they vary in both overall width (Ie length) and 'offset', Ie the distance between the locking part - the wee nobby thing that comes out, and which I presume sits in the dead centre of the door - and the two ends of the lock.
Most appear to be symmetrical, but others are deffo not.
So, you don't buy a 'Eurocylinder', but you buy one with the required dims.
Q - do you still have the old one? Great - simple measurements required.
Another Q - do you like the idea of a thumb-turn on the inside, if you don't have one already? They are both easier to use, and also safer if you need to exit in a hurry.

Unfortunately thumbturns aren’t as secure if there’s a letter box in the door.

Actually considering a thumb turn due to the number of times the OH insists on leaving her key in the lock in a way in which stops me from unlocking the door when I get home. 

Then I read about what you just mentionedive trialled it out myself, trying to get my hand through but it's flipping hard & I don't think I have particularly meaty hands. 

Maybe a small child could do it.