EON Next have removed Next Drive tariffs for battery only customers.

Mark901

Hi all,

My first post here.

I am currently on EON Next Drive V4 tariff, which ends in a few weeks, so I contacted them to renew. They told me that the Next Drive tariffs are now only available for EV customers. They also said that they are currently trialing a battery tariff but do not know when it will be available to the general public.

All they could offer me was a 3 rate tariff with off peak rates of more than double my current rates.

My current tariff rates:

Next Drive Fixed V4

Fixed term ends 03/12/2025

12AM - 7AM

6.70 p/kWh

7AM - 12AM

24.57 p/kWh

Standing charge

64.28 p/day

(All rates inc. VAT)

This is what they offered:

See rates for the Next Smart Saver Fixed 12m v8 below -

Electricity

Daily Standing charges - 37.49p/day

Unit rate - 38.77p/kWh

Peak hours - (16:00 - 19:00)

Unit rate - 23.29p/kWh

Off Peak hours -

(05:00 - 16:00)

(19:00 - 02:00)

Unit rate - 15.65p/kWh

Super Off Peak

(02:00 - 05:00)

We are all electric with a heat pump, solar and 10kw battery storage. In the winter when there is little solar and our usage jumps upto 20kw a day, this tariff would cost way more.

Eon next should have finished there trial of the new battery tariff and released it before removing access to the EV tariffs for battery owners. I think they will lose a lot of customers over this.

Can anybody please recommend a new supplier and tariff for me to switch to?

Thanks

P.S. Sorry I think I posted this in the wrong board before.

born_again

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6635207/eon-next-have-removed-next-drive-tariffs-for-battery-only-customers#latest

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Scot_39

Mark901 said:

Hi all,

My first post here.

I am currently on EON Next Drive V4 tariff, which ends in a few weeks, so I contacted them to renew. They told me that the Next Drive tariffs are now only available for EV customers. They also said that they are currently trialing a battery tariff but do not know when it will be available to the general public.

All they could offer me was a 3 rate tariff with off peak rates of more than double my current rates.

My current tariff rates:

Next Drive Fixed V4

Fixed term ends 03/12/2025

12AM - 7AM

6.70 p/kWh

7AM - 12AM

24.57 p/kWh

Standing charge

64.28 p/day

(All rates inc. VAT)

This is what they offered:

See rates for the Next Smart Saver Fixed 12m v8 below -

Electricity

Daily Standing charges - 37.49p/day

Unit rate - 38.77p/kWh

Peak hours - (16:00 - 19:00)

Unit rate - 23.29p/kWh

Off Peak hours -

(05:00 - 16:00)

(19:00 - 02:00)

Unit rate - 15.65p/kWh

Super Off Peak

(02:00 - 05:00)

We are all electric with a heat pump, solar and 10kw battery storage. In the winter when there is little solar and our usage jumps upto 20kw a day, this tariff would cost way more.

Eon next should have finished there trial of the new battery tariff and released it before removing access to the EV tariffs for battery owners. I think they will lose a lot of customers over this.

Can anybody please recommend a new supplier and tariff for me to switch to?

Thanks

P.S. Sorry I think I posted this in the wrong board before.

You dont have an EV.

Why expect to be allowed an EV tariff.

Check out others ev deals - as others have been equally lax in the past and dont insist on ev for ev or more general tou tariffs like say Cosy Ocopus or other suppliers that might be better for you.

Qyburn

Scot_39 said:

You dont have an EV.

Why expect to be allowed an EV tariff.

This is a change on Eon's part, they used to explicitly state the customers with solar/battery were eligible.

mmmmikey

Hi - this happened before and last time EoN relented and allowed battery / solar customers back on to Next Drive. I'm on this tariff, which does seem a bit too good to be true. When I switched 6ish months ago there was a fair bit of conflicting information on EoN's website and I got different answers depending on who I spoke to, so it might be worth double checking to make absolutely sure it's no longer an option. It took me a few enquiries to establish that I was able to switch, and I guess it's possible you have been misinformed?

Can anyone else confirm the current situation just to make absolutely sure it really isn't available anymore?

I'd also be interested to know if anyone has found anything that comes close to this for non-EV battery owners?

Alnat1

I'm on Octopus Cosy 12M Fixed with similar set up to you, ASHP, solar and 9kW battery, no EV. The rates I pay in Yorkshire region are -

standing charge 57.16p
off-peak 13.41p (4-7am, 1-4pm, 10-12pm)
standard 27.35p (midnight-4am, 7am-1pm,7-10pm)
peak 41.03 (4-7pm)

It's the only tariff available with 3 off peak periods which I do need in winter because of the small battery. Others offering a heat pump tariff don't have the late evening slot. I use this late slot to fill the battery for overnight use and to heat water, as we setback 2C from 9pm and the house isn't calling for heat at this time. I expect our average unit cost over winter to be around 14.2p/kWh (based on how much usage was cheap/peak rate last winter)

I've tried doing the maths (assuming I changed all heavy use to overnight, water heating, washer, dryer, dishwasher) of getting on an EV tariff, but it worked out more expensive because of the number of day time units I'd need to use once the battery was depleted. Required around 16kW of battery to make it work and the cost of the extra storage wouldn't be recouped within 10 years. 

QrizB

If you only need to draw from the mains supply during cheap rate hours, take a look at Utility Warehouse's E7 rates.

They're currently offering me:

Unit rate (day): 39.222p per kWh
Unit rate (night): 6.159p per kWh
Daily standing charge: 44.645p
Exit fee: £0.00

Chrysalis

There perhaps needs to be political intervention on EV tariffs. (also heat pump type tariffs)

There is one of two things happening, its either discrimination, where people with an EV will be sold cheaper electric for ideology reasons.  

Or its subsidised, perhaps either by government or manufacturers, or non EV tariff customers.

But neither is disclosed, its instead of the supplier has the right to restrict who can join the tariff, which I think isnt good enough, the cheaper energy is applicable to the entire home, not just for charging an EV.  So the customer has access in some cases to considerably cheaper energy, simply because they have a EV charging point and an EV.
It shouldnt matter what the energy is used on as long as its deemed consumer use.  Yet for the suppliers for some reason it matters.

QrizB

Chrysalis said:

It shouldnt matter what the energy is used on as long as its deemed consumer use.  Yet for the suppliers for some reason it matters.

It matters for demand management.

There.are times when there is a surplus of electricity that is available at low (or negative) cost. If a supplier is able to "switch on" loads, they can make use of this surplus.

Suppliers can't come into your house and switch on your kettle, but (tthanks to smart meters and smart tariffs) they can tell your EV to charge or your storage heaters to warm up.

Hence smart tariffs for EVs and storage heaters can be offered at a lower cost than dumb tariffs.

dunstonh

QrizB said:

If you only need to draw from the mains supply during cheap rate hours, take a look at Utility Warehouse's E7 rates.

They're currently offering me:

Unit rate (day): 39.222p per kWh
Unit rate (night): 6.159p per kWh
Daily standing charge: 44.645p
Exit fee: £0.00

Same here.   Except under Eastern, which is a little cheaper still off-peak.

lohr500

dunstonh said:

QrizB said:

If you only need to draw from the mains supply during cheap rate hours, take a look at Utility Warehouse's E7 rates.

They're currently offering me:

Unit rate (day): 39.222p per kWh
Unit rate (night): 6.159p per kWh
Daily standing charge: 44.645p
Exit fee: £0.00

Same here.   Except under Eastern, which is a little cheaper still off-peak.

And even better in Yorkshire region!!! 
4.83p off-peak. I took out a 12 month fix to August 2026 in case they dropped it. 
Reminds me of your happy days on EDF's Eastern region Eco 7 rate