Thames water meter saying I’ve refused because I don’t want kitchen cupboards ruined

Creamcarpet

Emmia said:

Creamcarpet said:

TadleyBaggie said:

So presumably nothing will be visible if the doors are shut? If so it wouldn’t bother me one bit.

You presumption is correct.  So glad it wouldn’t bother you.  It bothers me to have a hole cut at the back of the cupboard.  Did you have an answer to my original question or did you just want to comment on the kitchen?

I think the choice is your daughter has it in the back of the cupboard or carries on paying over the odds for her water. 

What does she think of the proposed location? That's what matters.

I pay the bill.  She feels the same.  Nice highlighting btw 🤪

FrugaiMacDugal

Creamcarpet said:

XzavierWalnut said:

Just had the same with Northumbrian Water last week. Told me it would be £400 to dig up the pavement outside the house boundary. Or to rip off the wallpapered wood that boxes the pipes in next to the stopcock.
They also said the metre would stick out the wall a few inches in the kitchen.
I told them to cancel my request.

Thanks.  That’s what I will be doing, but wondered if they would now reduce the dd based on her being a single person, rather than the size of the house.  

All the more reason to get a meter fitted.

marcia_

Creamcarpet said:

XzavierWalnut said:

Just had the same with Northumbrian Water last week. Told me it would be £400 to dig up the pavement outside the house boundary. Or to rip off the wallpapered wood that boxes the pipes in next to the stopcock.
They also said the metre would stick out the wall a few inches in the kitchen.
I told them to cancel my request.

Thanks.  That’s what I will be doing, but wondered if they would now reduce the dd based on her being a single person, rather than the size of the house.  

 Thats not how it works 

Spikeygran

MattMattMattUK said:

Spikeygran said:

I dont think I'd want one in a kitchen cupboard either, purely from losing the cupboard space.  I would expect some condension in the winter and maybe some noise from the water flow.  

There would not be condensation unless the house was excessively humid or damp and additionally the pipes carrying the same temperature water are already there so there would be no additional condensation or noise from water flow.

We are in Scotland and our water comes out chilled (no need for water from the fridge) even in the height of summer. So condensation is a real issue.  The house humidity kept below average and good extraction in bathroom and kitchen. Its just the contrast between the couple of degrees lower water temperature and the house heat.  There is always some moisture in the air.

born_again

Spikeygran said:

I dont think I'd want one in a kitchen cupboard either, purely from losing the cupboard space.  I would expect some condension in the winter and maybe some noise from the water flow.  

Why do you think you would get noise from a water meter?
Condensation is already there on the pipes that run to sink.

Ours is under sink. Takes up no more room than the pipes do.

Creamcarpet

TadleyBaggie said:

So presumably nothing will be visible if the doors are shut? If so it wouldn’t bother me one bit.

You’re correct.  Well that’s why we are all different.

Grumpy_chap

Creamcarpet said:

 I feel they’ve put up the dd to try to force us to have a meter.  

They kind of have.  This is not only TW, but large parts of the country are now in compulsory metering zones (which is not the sole decision of the water companies).  We have no meter and the communications from TW are that we can have a meter or, over time, the bill to unmetered properties will be a direct proportion of all unmetered water use in the zone less that paid for by anyone's meter and whatever is left will be divided between all unmetered properties, hence the unmetered properties will eventually pay for all the water that leaks in the system or goes to unauthorised connections.  That is all a billing process that is agreed by the regulators.

Creamcarpet

FrugaiMacDugal said:

Creamcarpet said:

XzavierWalnut said:

Just had the same with Northumbrian Water last week. Told me it would be £400 to dig up the pavement outside the house boundary. Or to rip off the wallpapered wood that boxes the pipes in next to the stopcock.
They also said the metre would stick out the wall a few inches in the kitchen.
I told them to cancel my request.

Thanks.  That’s what I will be doing, but wondered if they would now reduce the dd based on her being a single person, rather than the size of the house.  

All the more reason to get a meter fitted.

Circles, going round in….do you remember that song?

Creamcarpet

subjecttocontract said:

Where do you expect them to put it ? The pipe is probably located 3 feet underground, so they can dig up the pavement to gain access or fit it where the pipe surfaces in the kitchen. seems there aren't any other options.

I expected TW to locate it outside of the property.  Not have to cut a big hole in the back of the cupboard, which is not an under sink cupboard but a storage cupboard 

FrugaiMacDugal

Creamcarpet said:

FrugaiMacDugal said:

Creamcarpet said:

XzavierWalnut said:

Just had the same with Northumbrian Water last week. Told me it would be £400 to dig up the pavement outside the house boundary. Or to rip off the wallpapered wood that boxes the pipes in next to the stopcock.
They also said the metre would stick out the wall a few inches in the kitchen.
I told them to cancel my request.

Thanks.  That’s what I will be doing, but wondered if they would now reduce the dd based on her being a single person, rather than the size of the house.  

All the more reason to get a meter fitted.

Circles, going round in….do you remember that song?

Mmm, before my time.