Thames water meter saying I’ve refused because I don’t want kitchen cupboards ruined

marcia_

Creamcarpet said:

TadleyBaggie said:

Having to cut into the back of a cupboard (under the sink?) hardly sounds like a ruined kitchen.

It’s not under the sink.  It’s a cupboard next to where the sink is, and the back of it will have to be cut away, in my opinion is ruining the kitchen. Would you have the backs of your cupboards cut away?

My under sink cupboard has no back to make way for the pipes. Would not bother me having the back removed nobody except you can see it. 

MattMattMattUK

Spikeygran said:

I dont think I'd want one in a kitchen cupboard either, purely from losing the cupboard space.  I would expect some condension in the winter and maybe some noise from the water flow.  

There would not be condensation unless the house was excessively humid or damp and additionally the pipes carrying the same temperature water are already there so there would be no additional condensation or noise from water flow.

Creamcarpet

TadleyBaggie said:

So presumably nothing will be visible if the doors are shut? If so it wouldn’t bother me one bit.

You presumption is correct.  So glad it wouldn’t bother you.  It bothers me to have a hole cut at the back of the cupboard.  Did you have an answer to my original question or did you just want to comment on the kitchen?

Emmia

Creamcarpet said:

TadleyBaggie said:

So presumably nothing will be visible if the doors are shut? If so it wouldn’t bother me one bit.

You presumption is correct.  So glad it wouldn’t bother you.  It bothers me to have a hole cut at the back of the cupboard.  Did you have an answer to my original question or did you just want to comment on the kitchen?

I think the choice is your daughter has it in the back of the cupboard or carries on paying over the odds for her water. 

What does she think of the proposed location? That's what matters.

Creamcarpet

Not that it’s anyone’s business, but being as you so interested I pay the bills on my daughters house which she owns without a mortgage- ooh that’s interesting eh?
Those interested in the bill payment and why I deem it will ruin the kitchen, seem to make an awful lot of comments on this forum-go troll someone else if you don’t have the answer to my question.

Emmia

Creamcarpet said:

Not that it’s anyone’s business, but being as you so interested I pay the bills on my daughters house which she owns without a mortgage- ooh that’s interesting eh?
Those interested in the bill payment and why I deem it will ruin the kitchen, seem to make an awful lot of comments on this forum-go troll someone else if you don’t have the answer to my question.

What answer do you want? The water company have provided options to you

1)You have it in the kitchen (free)
2)You have it in the road/pavement (at your cost)

Edit: As someone with a meter in the street, having it in a cupboard in the kitchen would make reading it more convenient.

Creamcarpet

Spikeygran said:

I dont think I'd want one in a kitchen cupboard either, purely from losing the cupboard space.  I would expect some condension in the winter and maybe some noise from the water flow.  

There may be an advantage.  Generally you are responsible for all pipework your side of the meter, which is often several meters across your property.  If that follows with one fitted at the stop !!!!!! that could save some money eventually.

How about talking to some of the neigbours who share the stopcock, maybe if others also want a meter fitted, it will reduce the cost of fitting per customer, and enable them to be fitted outside, maybe just inside the garden boundary which would be cheaper than the pavement hopefully?  I checked our supplier , and having a meter connected to a single use stopcock generates what is called a standard survey fee, plus costs to fit the meter.   

Thank you.  The point of my post was TW have kept on about a meter, and I don’t see why we should have to have a cupboard cut for this.  I wanted one outside but they can’t do it.  So I’ve either got to pay for the pavement to be dug up (don’t see why I should) or have a hole in the cupboard.  I feel they’ve put up the dd to try to force us to have a meter.  

Creamcarpet

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Creamcarpet said:

TadleyBaggie said:

Having to cut into the back of a cupboard (under the sink?) hardly sounds like a ruined kitchen.

It’s not under the sink.  It’s a cupboard next to where the sink is, and the back of it will have to be cut away, in my opinion is ruining the kitchen. Would you have the backs of your cupboards cut away?

Yes, a few of my (still fairly new) kitchen cupboards have sections of the back cut away for access to various bits of plumbing. It's a normal thing to do - and not something that is visible unless you empty the cupboard, open the door and get down on your hands and knees. Is there a particular reason this matters to you?

Because there would be a big hole and the contents of the cupboard would probably end up falling down the back, and would have to remove the kick boards to retrieve them.

MyRealNameToo

Creamcarpet said:

TadleyBaggie said:

Having to cut into the back of a cupboard (under the sink?) hardly sounds like a ruined kitchen.

It’s not under the sink.  It’s a cupboard next to where the sink is, and the back of it will have to be cut away, in my opinion is ruining the kitchen. Would you have the backs of your cupboards cut away?

Several of our cupboards have their backs cut into to allow access to pipes, plug sockets, ducting etc. It's been the same of all kitchens we've had. They've been a designed feature rather than ruining the kitchen

Creamcarpet

XzavierWalnut said:

Just had the same with Northumbrian Water last week. Told me it would be £400 to dig up the pavement outside the house boundary. Or to rip off the wallpapered wood that boxes the pipes in next to the stopcock.
They also said the metre would stick out the wall a few inches in the kitchen.
I told them to cancel my request.

Thanks.  That’s what I will be doing, but wondered if they would now reduce the dd based on her being a single person, rather than the size of the house.