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Parking eye fine AMPR advise please (new to this )

I need advice weather I have any defence if I leave this fine and take it to court. Due to being falsely promised by the land lord on the phone saying he would pay my ticket due to me giving his son a lift I didn’t pay or appeal the ticket(he never payed) I didn’t get a ticket and I stayed over by 1 minute 6 seconds ( due to his son not being ready to leave) I never left the car and the engine was always running i entered the car park at 18:17:45 and left at 18:28:51 due to just a 1 minute six second over stay my original ticket was £100 and as I was told it would be covered I never went through the original appeal process and have just been issued a letter from dcbl wanting £170 saying I have no chance to appeal no my next chance will be if they take me to court I can defend myself there. Can anyone help do I have any defence what shall I do I have until midnight tonight to pay the £170 or possibly go to court. 
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  • James_Poisson
    James_Poisson Posts: 233 Forumite
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    There is no fine, you have a speculative invoice from a scummy parking company DCBL are not entitled to load on another £70, you certainly do not pay them for doing nothing but sending scary silly letters.
    Have a read of the Newbies thread at the top of this forum it's all explained there, going to court is far better outcome where an impartial judge would decide on the merits of your defence anyway, not some scamming parking company and a biased sham appeals service.
    Stay with this forum and don't let the idiots at DCBL scare you, bu don't ignore any real court papers the world will not collapse at midnight! ;)

  • blobfish007
    blobfish007 Posts: 13 Newbie
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    Do I have any defence there though with my situation I’m in. 
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,529 Forumite
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    you have not been fined, you do not have a penalty. 
    whose car park was this?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 10,009 Forumite
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    edited Today at 10:14AM
    Your defence ( if required   ) is written for you in the defence template thread in announcements near the top of the forum by coupon mad 

    These cases are usually discontinued just before the court hearing fee deadline looms, where they have to put up or shut up

    So we will assist you if you need the help

    So do not pay powerless debt collectors,  ignore them,  especially DCBL

    There is no fine,  Magistrates issue fines,  but aren't involved in private parking company cases
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,285 Forumite
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    I need advice weather I have any defence if I leave this fine and take it to court. Due to being falsely promised by the land lord on the phone saying he would pay my ticket due to me giving his son a lift I didn’t pay or appeal the ticket(he never payed) I didn’t get a ticket and I stayed over by 1 minute 6 seconds ( due to his son not being ready to leave) I never left the car and the engine was always running i entered the car park at 18:17:45 and left at 18:28:51 due to just a 1 minute six second over stay my original ticket was £100 and as I was told it would be covered I never went through the original appeal process and have just been issued a letter from dcbl wanting £170 saying I have no chance to appeal no my next chance will be if they take me to court I can defend myself there. Can anyone help do I have any defence what shall I do

    I have until midnight tonight to pay the £170 or possibly go to court. 
    But you won't be doing either of those things.

    Await the claim form and defend it.

    You'll never "go to court" unless the PPC is Excel, VCS or TPS (I think they are the only ones whose arrangement with DCB Legal includes attending court hearings).

    Which PPC?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 10,009 Forumite
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    edited Today at 11:13AM
    Post 1 thread title says it was Parking Eye using ANPR cameras 

    Name the location where this happened 

    Ideally post pictures of the signage on that private property,  so we can read the terms and conditions 

    Post redacted pictures of both sides of the first NTK PCN letter,  after hiding your name and address,  the VRM details and the pcn reference too, so no personal information but leaving all the dates and times showing , plus the location 
  • blobfish007
    blobfish007 Posts: 13 Newbie
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    @Coupon-mad hi Thankyou for responding what do you mean by PPC
  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 10,009 Forumite
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    @Coupon-mad hi Thankyou for responding what do you mean by PPC
    Acronyms or Initialisms are explained in post 5 in the newbies sticky thread in announcements near the top of the forum by coupon mad 

    Private Parking Company 

  • blobfish007
    blobfish007 Posts: 13 Newbie
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    @Gr1pr location: George and dragon tarvin I don’t have pictures of signs when I was there as it was a year go. I’ve attached all 3 letters I have got.  I don’t still have the letters I’m quite young and have learnt a valuable lesson from this in making sure I keep a paper trail of everything and copies instead of believing the landlord in this case saying he would sort it and he hasn’t. 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,285 Forumite
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    @Coupon-mad hi Thankyou for responding what do you mean by PPC
    You haven't read NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST, before posting?

    You should read it first.  :)
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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