PCN - Wing Yip, Manchester

Coupon-mad

RavingMad said:

A couple of weeks ago, I stopped outside the supermarket to pick up my elderly parents (one of whom has a blue badge) I was two mins at most as my family loaded the car. 
A PCN came through the door at the weekend. One picture is of the car boot open.
Is it worth appealing on the grounds of blue badge holder?

James_Poisson said:

Blue badge is not relevant on private land, but what exactly are they charging you for?

Parking on yellow lines

Boarding and alighting (and loading) are all exempt activity on yellow lines. Perfectly allowed (according to the usual meaning of double or single yellows).

It's also a breach of the Equality Act 2010 as on this occasion, you were acting as carer (transporter) of disabled passengers. They can't charge money for that perfectly normal conduct, in fact they have a duty to make 'reasonable adjustments' such as letting disabled persons be set down or picked up close to the store.

The CCTV is also illegal because it is covert (deliberately hidden high and on another building entirely and it films excessively 24/7, every car and person on foot in that area, and not for security reasons).

That breaches the ICO Code of Practice.

Certainly NEVER pay this scam PCN.

Is UKPS in the BPA or IPC?

ChirpyChicken

Its ipc @Coupon-mad

RavingMad

Car1980 said:

But like I said, never seen anything come of Wing Yip tickets.

And long may that continue 

The car is my wife's name and she wasn't with us at the time lol

Coupon-mad

RavingMad said:

Car1980 said:

But like I said, never seen anything come of Wing Yip tickets.

And long may that continue 

The car is my wife's name and she wasn't with us at the time lol

OK so doesn't she want to transfer liability to you? I do recall a current court claim this year about WingYip (I remember it because it's that Croydon, innit - see my Avatar...).

RavingMad

Bit of advice needed now. Had a reminder PCN a month later and now have a letter from a debt recovery firm; TRACE Debt Recovery UK.

Do I need to do anything at this stage or carry on ignoring?  Wife is annoyed I didn't pay the £30 at the time but I assured her the good folk on here have said not to line their pockets
Thanks 

Car1980

Carry on ignoring. Threatograms from powerless debt collectors are part of the process.

Note how they phrase things as if they can obtain a CCJ by clicking their fingers.

kryten3000

If she hasn't done so already, your wife can transfer liability to you at any point up to the issue of a County Court Claim, so that would remove her from the equation.

However, from the limited part of the PCN posted, this is likely not POFA compliant so there is no keeper liability anyway - the only down side is your wife would have to defend a claim against her.  There's nothing to stop you doing all the paperwork on her behalf if that helps at all.

Coupon-mad

If she is wobbling get her to transfer liability.

RavingMad

Update - received a letter from Moorside Legal dated 21st but only got this weekend.

A law firm instructed to collect the outstanding balance of £170.

Is this another ignore letter?

Thanks

Coupon-mad

Depends if she has done what I said or wants to. Now is the time to transfer liability to the driver, if she is not up for a court hearing late this year.