Plans for all major energy suppliers to offer at least one low Standing Charge tariff from Jan 2026

wrf12345

These posts just confirm the fairness of moving the s/c cost on to the unit cost, the more people use the more they pay... and the only way to do that is to have the zero s/c as the default tariff - which will need the energy sec to wake up and step in to overrule, if not close down, Ofgem.

matt_drummer

wrf12345 said:

These posts just confirm the fairness of moving the s/c cost on to the unit cost, the more people use the more they pay... and the only way to do that is to have the zero s/c as the default tariff - which will need the energy sec to wake up and step in to overrule, if not close down, Ofgem.

People who use more already pay more and people who use less already pay less.

What you really want is the option to pay zero if you use nothing.

Which you can already do!


So if we were all like you and used very little and paid no standing charge, how will everything get paid for that is currently funded by the standing charge?

It's a simple question that I hope you can give an answer to.


If you can do that then your quest for zero standing charges will move closer to fruition.

MeteredOut

wrf12345 said:

These posts just confirm the fairness of moving the s/c cost on to the unit cost, the more people use the more they pay... and the only way to do that is to have the zero s/c as the default tariff - which will need the energy sec to wake up and step in to overrule, if not close down, Ofgem.

I'm really starting to worry about your comprehension skills if that's what you're taking from this thread.

EssexHebridean

wrf12345 said:

These posts just confirm the fairness of moving the s/c cost on to the unit cost, the more people use the more they pay... and the only way to do that is to have the zero s/c as the default tariff - which will need the energy sec to wake up and step in to overrule, if not close down, Ofgem.

All most of the posts here do is confirm that an awful lot of folk want someone else to subsidise their ability to flick a switch for light, or turn the thermostat up for heating, at any given moment regardless of what the weather is doing. I presume that you use a supermarket delivery service for a single pint of milk then complain you’re paying the same for it to be delivered as the family of 5 a few doors down who’ve just spent £100, too?

matelodave

Is there a point to this thread anymore.

GingerTim

wrf12345 said:

These posts just confirm the fairness of moving the s/c cost on to the unit cost, the more people use the more they pay... and the only way to do that is to have the zero s/c as the default tariff - which will need the energy sec to wake up and step in to overrule, if not close down, Ofgem.

You could call it 'The I'm Alright, Jack' tariff.

Scot_39

matelodave said:

Is there a point to this thread anymore.

Ofgem made it very clear I their very first report it was largely pointless move as without more govt cash they were just moving money from 1 line on bills to another - with more down side risks than upside benefits.

But hey 30,000 public responses backing the idea - a tiny fraction of the c29m grid connected homesi in the uk kept it running for well ovef a year and its still out for comment.

 
As it turns out more cash didnt come, but arguably govt authorisation to use bill payers cash  - in terms of extending whd to 2.7m more homes did come.

But added to their top line bills, and of course tge 3.4m already on whd who were already deemed to be on benefits set so low to pay the full price.

Bills increased by inflation busting rises to govt social policy costs, inflation busting net zero costs and of course debt sustainability costs - set at £50 when lumped together earlier this year - and debts up another £0.25 bn to £4.4bn in latest Ofgem debt and 91 day arrears stats.

As millions in debt demonstrate that our bills are too high.  Miliband piles on with net zero 95% by 2030.

And adds to bills with more net zero costs o  tge electric network and the £17 for whd extension as of Oct 1st.

Since last real pre crisis level Mar 22 - wholesale costs up £200 - cap up £478 - as policy increases, CfD and net zero network and balancing charges - make our energy bills unaffordable to many and a real stretch for others.

matt_drummer

Scot_39 said:

As millions in debt demonstrate that our bills are too high.  

No, that just demonstrates that millions have not paid their bills, you cannot jump to any other conclusion from that!

molerat

matt_drummer said:

Scot_39 said:

As millions in debt demonstrate that our bills are too high.  

No, that just demonstrates that millions have not paid their bills, you cannot jump to any other conclusion from that!

A notable minority of the population will exploit any opportunity to not pay for something and with the current OFGEM / government policy of not enforcing debt collection, in fact rewarding those that recovery action was previously forced upon, will abuse that situation to the maximum.

The_Green_Hornet

Personally, I would like the standing charge to revert back to it's original purpose which was to cover the fixed costs of supplying energy to the customer but when the government can use it as an additional tax / benefits system (albeit a regressive one) while being shielded by Ofgem and the energy companies I can't see them doing so.

I suspect the next big increase will be when they bow to lobbying and introduce a social tariff.