Under counter fridge or freezer

elsien

So I’m going back to my other question, where are you going to keep your perishables if you don’t have a fridge?

oldernonethewiser

olb81 said:

One little draw isn't enough I don't think 

I assume you mean drawer.

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elsien said:

So I’m going back to my other question, where are you going to keep your perishables if you don’t have a fridge?

....and even more important, how will you cool your beer?

Eldi_Dos

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elsien said:

So I’m going back to my other question, where are you going to keep your perishables if you don’t have a fridge?

....and even more important, how will you cool your beer?

You wrap them up in sackcloth, soak sackcloth with water and hang up in part of the property that has a through draught.

itsthelittlethings

I think you’ll find you can’t do without a fridge.

Flugelhorn

Fridge is crucial - can do without freezer (I grew up in a house with a larder and cold shelf but there was no central heating so the room really was cool - not so easy these days)

born_again

Here's a though.
Cut counter top & have a fridge freezer 👍

Scot_39

olb81 said:

Hi yes I use butter milk etc
The fridges with small freezer at the top just don't look big enough and sounds like they aren't as cold either.
Can I get a 50-50 fridge freezer with own doors?
Or one for under the counter and a very small one on top of the worktop? 

The icebox sections will be cold enough to keep most frozen things for a month - and if your talking frozen veg packs - easily fit maybe a weak or twos supply.

And if you've not got a full sized freezer  and fridge - chances are your shopping more regularly already.

Ildhund

I'm not bumping this thread for any other reason than to justify ignoring all the pressing interior economy tasks waiting for me today in favour of mucking about with data and visualization. As the outdoor temperature plummeted this month, so did that in my largely unheated kitchen. I wondered what effect this had on the energy use of my little freezer. I was happy to discover a very close correlation:
  

The base chart with blue bars is provided by a £7.49 Tapo P110 smart plug socket (Plocket? Slug?). The green temperature curve comes from my Netatmo indoor monitor. The maximum of the temperature curve is 16.7°C on 7 November, the minimum 8.7°C on 22 November.

The only real outlier is on 10-11 November, and I did a bit of research to find out what caused it. The conclusion: I did a fairly big shop that day and foolishly bought more frozen stuff than would fit comfortably in the freezer. It took me some time to hoick everything out and slot it all back in again along with the new stuff. 9 November's consumption was 230Wh, 10 November 249Wh and 11 November 233Wh. So I had an extra 15-20Wh because of that. 30 November is also to be ignored, because only half the day had elapsed when I took the snapshot.

A few random remarks:
The total for 98% of November - 5.994kWh - will cost me £1.40. I can manage that.
None of that energy is wasted; it joins forces with the kettle, the microwave and once a week or so a dose of oven chips or a home-doctored frozen supermarket pizza to stop the pipes from freezing. 
Every weekday, Tapo turns the freezer off from 17:00 to 19:00 to help with my contribution towards reducing peak demand for electricity. It doesn't save any money; the shortfall is made up in the next half hour. It doesn't seem to bother the freezer's contents.
IMHO, these little Tapo devices are brilliant, widely available for about £8 a pop.
I can't think of a better way of wasting time ...

[PS a bit later] I forgot:
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Why on earth can't all those clever designers provide their jolly charts and graphs with helpful axis labels? We often see Octopus and others' usage charts with vague time axes, so you have to squint and count to see what time a bar belongs to, just like the date axis above. And I can't for the life of me work out why that 'y' axis has to have such bizarre value ticks. OK, the vertical space is limited and they want to make best use of it, but wouldn't it have been more intelligible to keep the bars at their current heights, but mark the axis at 0.05kWh intervals, say? The weedy gridlines, barely discernible at each tick, are just too few and too wispy.
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