The holy grail of university education.

Gemmzie

Pennywise wrote: »

With the government paranoia about getting a fixed percentage of pupils into Uni, I think a lot of people now miss the point about "why" they should or shouldn't go to Uni. As more people are going to Uni, likewise more are coming out at the other end with "average" degrees and no real idea of what to do with them - hence graduates burger flipping or being bums on seats in call centres. A lot of this seems to stem from the expectation of the pupil and parents for a uni education, but no real plans for life afterwards.

That's exactly what the government want. Graduates with student [STRIKE]tax[/STRIKE] debt who work average carppy jobs for average carppy wages.

Gemmzie

I don't agree with the fact that BA degrees don't lead to jobs, mine certainly will and it's the reason I picked it. I've found a job field I really enjoy and strive to be better at it so am getting qualified. It also protects me as an employee.

I wholeheartedly agree that the reasons for 'why' behind university need to be better thought out by many potiential undergraduates. So many people on student forums don't seem to know why they are there.
There's also a number who are doing Law or Business because their parents pushed them in that direction. That's quite sad too.

absolutebounder

Most of the millionaires I know dont have degrees but then some do so I guess how successful you become is really down to the individual. I was once introduced to a guy at a property investors evening who had hair down to his waist torn jeans and a scruffy checked shirt. The tramps outside were better dressed. #He turned out to own several prime properties in London and his life consisted of collecting rent, sticking a needle in the globe and jetting off there for a two week holiday, then coming back collect more rent and go on holiday with GF again. He has one o level in art. Genius.

Hereward

TITEASCRAMP wrote: »

Where did you get 21 from. I thought it was 18 too

21 is the age of majority, under 21 are still considered minors in the eyes of the law. Lots of the things that adults take for granted only used to be legally avaible to people over the age of majority.

mcwarre

absolutebounder wrote: »

collect more rent and go on holiday with GF again. He has one o level in art. Genius.

Are you sure he wasn't a forger with all that money and an art O level??? :j

Sola

I don't think it is, Hereward - it was lowered from 21 to 18 with effect from 1970 under the Family Law Reform Act 1969 (sorry, the hyperlink won't work).

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+Legislation&searchDay=4&searchMonth=1&searchYear=2008&searchEnacted=0&text=age+of+majority&extent=E%2bW%2bS%2bN.I.&extentMatchOnly=0&confersPower=0&blanketAmendment=0&sortAlpha=0&PageNumber=3&NavFrom=0&parentActiveTextDocId=1277000&ActiveTextDocId=1277004&filesize=4668

Hereward

Sola wrote: »

I don't think it is, Hereward - it was lowered from 21 to 18 with effect from 1970 under the Family Law Reform Act 1969 (sorry, the hyperlink won't work).

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+Legislation&searchDay=4&searchMonth=1&searchYear=2008&searchEnacted=0&text=age+of+majority&extent=E%2bW%2bS%2bN.I.&extentMatchOnly=0&confersPower=0&blanketAmendment=0&sortAlpha=0&PageNumber=3&NavFrom=0&parentActiveTextDocId=1277000&ActiveTextDocId=1277004&filesize=4668

Thanks Sola, I stand corrected. I hadn't realsied that the age of majority had been reduced.

Rikki

:eek: My son is hoping to get a BA Jt Hons. Is this going to be a waste of time?

I think as long as children continue to study something they enjoy then why should they not go onto university.

I agree there are too many weird and wonderful degree courses, but is this because we have lost apprentiships and on the job training schemes.

Young people need to know they can learn as they go along and when they change jobs the experience and in house training they've had will count with a new employer.

takoo

Hi All

Its horses for courses. Many would not benefit from a degree. Let them go and try if they are able.

Hopefully parents with aspirations for their children or grandchildren (unlike Hapless) will support them to be best of their ability.

Parents set the standard for any child's ambitions but some miss out - despite being super-qualified. Even so they still lead happy lives!
We are what we do - they need all the help they can get.

All the best fro 2008

Takoo

anewman

University isn't what it was many years ago anyway. Weren't people who got a first class degree many years ago pretty much guaranteed a job?! No such luck for me.