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Horizon Parking and Epping Forest
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There's something strange. I can't find the 19 August or 12 August MSE Tips emails in my inbox but I've got 5 August and earlier. I'm still subscribed. And if I search for MSE Tips the 19 August and 12 August emails come up. They're not in my junk folder. I'll keep investigating.2
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Must be in All Mail but not the inbox for some reason.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD1 -
I've solved the mystery of the missing emails. They were in a folder in the inbox called "Updates" which I didn't know existed. It didn't appear as a folder at the top of my Gmail inbox alongside Primary, Promotions and Social. It was hidden under Categories. As to why only my last two weekly MSE emails were placed in that folder and not previous ones, apparently "Gmail's algorithms are constantly evolving". Who knew? Now I just need to find a way of making sure that future MSE emails go to my Primary folder as they did before.2
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I've asked the City of London Corporation why Horizon were referring in their Notice to Registered Keeper to parking on private land and quoting POFA 2012, when this is land owned by the City, but I haven't had a reply yet. If this is indeed public land does this invalidate the Parking Charge altogether as we should have been issued with a Penalty Charge instead?1
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Nothing "invalidates" a private parking company invoice
It may well be unenforceable, but only a judge can decide the outcome, in civil court
The parking company are trying to invoke civil law, same as Apcoa and VCS at airports
All it probably means is that Horizon should not be quoting POFA2012, or trying to mislead victims2 -
I have now received a new PCN as the driver, dated 26 August but received 1 September, 6 days (4 business days) later. This is exactly the same as the original PCN addressed to the keeper and confirms a systematic practice of dating the letter at least 2 days before the posting date. This is why I have suggested an assumption of 5 days between the issue date and the date of service in my response to the MHCLG consultation.
Using the 2 days after the stated issue date as the date of service, I now have until 25 September to submit a fresh appeal. I will take my time to compose this but I expect that it will include the following (with grateful thanks for all your help):-
1. There was no valid contract between me and Horizon Parking as there was no acceptance of an offer by me and no consideration took place.
2. Alternatively, any alleged contract was frustrated by the inability of the RingGo phone app, which was the prominently displayed method of payment stipulated by Horizon, to download and register my details. The alternative phone number was in very small print which could not be read from a distance and, in any case, would have taken even more time with no guarantee that this would work any better than the app.
I have now found some evidence to support my wife's original appeal of mitigating circumstances, namely two SMS messages from RingGo within our visit period with a 6 digit verificaton code in response to my attempts to enter my mobile phone number. Both times these were entered but the app refused to go any further. Do you think that I should use mitigating circumstances as a backup as I have this fresh evidence?
Hooray! I have now completed my submission to the MHCLG consultation. I took far longer than I expected and there is no way that I would have been able to do this if I were not retired and was working 12 hours a day, including the commute, as I was when I was a wage slave. Similarly, I would have probably just paid the £60 parking charge and written it off as bad luck, whilst cursing the unfair and corrupt parking companies. This is how the whole parking industry works as a gravy train for the PPCs.
I will post my comments on the consultation on the correct thread.2
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