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On bin day, neighbour obstructs my front garden with their bins.

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  • outtatune
    outtatune Posts: 770 Forumite
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    Section62 said:
    TELLIT01 said:
    Here, every single bin is left outside the property border.  It seems unlikely in the extreme that the entire population has it wrong.  Possible, but unlikely.
    If the bin men pushed the bins back over the property line, I would be more inclined to believe the AI version.

    Good point, ours have to be in the property right on the boundary so as not to cause an obstruction, but are left all over the place once emptied. The rule obviously only applies one way. 
    Ditto if anything falls out of the bins while being tipped into the lorry... it might appear waste collection operatives are exempt from the law on littering as they never seem to pick anything up.
    Cut them some slack. They work super hard, get paid a pittance, and the timings on their rounds are extremely tight, even if everything goes perfectly.


  • Section62
    Section62 Posts: 9,962 Forumite
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    outtatune said:
    Section62 said:
    TELLIT01 said:
    Here, every single bin is left outside the property border.  It seems unlikely in the extreme that the entire population has it wrong.  Possible, but unlikely.
    If the bin men pushed the bins back over the property line, I would be more inclined to believe the AI version.

    Good point, ours have to be in the property right on the boundary so as not to cause an obstruction, but are left all over the place once emptied. The rule obviously only applies one way. 
    Ditto if anything falls out of the bins while being tipped into the lorry... it might appear waste collection operatives are exempt from the law on littering as they never seem to pick anything up.
    Cut them some slack. They work super hard, get paid a pittance, and the timings on their rounds are extremely tight, even if everything goes perfectly.

    "Cut me some slack" is unlikely to work as an excuse if you drop some litter and get seen by an enforcement officer.  Ditto if you get caught flytipping.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying littering/flytipping is OK, just that if councils are serious about a zero-tolerance approach then they should make sure to start with their own operations.

    I'd agree though, if the contract means the operatives don't have time to clear up what they drop then the problem is with the council, not the operatives.  But from personal experience working in local authority environmental services I'd suggest the average operative isn't working under the level of pressure you suggest.... the typical method of working is if they finish their assigned rounds early they get to go home early and/or can pick up overtime by helping out on other rounds.  Doing the job quickly is largely down to personal incentive.  And the pay isn't that bad either.

    And essentially it is the same reason bins get left all over the place rather than returned to the property they came from.
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