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On bin day, neighbour obstructs my front garden with their bins.

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  • c4bosh
    c4bosh Posts: 9 Forumite
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    TELLIT01 said:
    The OP seems to be making a big fuss over a very small problem.  Do they really have to access their hedge for maintenance every day of the week?  It has all the appearance of a neighbour dispute which has got way out of hand.
    Thats not what I am saying. I should not have to prioritise my neighbours' bins over something I am planning to do at my property. Why can't they just place their bins in front of their own house like everyone else does? 
  • grumpy_codger
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    edited 19 August at 2:57PM
    c4bosh said:
    The police are right.
    You seem to pay far too much attention to maintaining your shrubs from the public pavement.
    If you want to book someone just do this and they will take care of the bin if they need this.

    ETA: you can discuss this with the council as AFAIK the bin, if possible, has to be left on the edge of the owner's property, not on a public pavement.

    The problem is that no one can move the bin out of the way. The neighbour goes mental if we do.
    What is a problem for you isn't a problem for a  tradsperson. And if the neigbour gets agressive and obstructive, this is the right time to call the police, not when they put their bin to a wrong place.
  • c4bosh
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    Uriziel said:
    I don't understand what the problem is with being shouted at? Just move them and let them yell..? Just like the police said, they are on the public road so this is fine. If you are moving them and they are on public road that is still fine. What are they going to complain about? That their bin was moved by a few cm on the public pavement so that someone can cut their grass..? Just do what you have to do and let them "yell". They will get used to it very quickly. What are they going to do? Call the police because someone moved their bin for a few cm? The police would probably fine them for wasting their time.
    That is exactly what they did. Called the Police because we moved them out of our way. The neighbour went further and brought all of their bins out and placed them in front of our house and left them for 4 days.
  • c4bosh
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    vacheron said:
    I would assume that the person trimming your trees and shrubs would just move the neighbours bin ever so slightly further up the road for 5 minutes, trim the shrubs, and then put them back.

    Why do you have to cancel his appointment just because he might need to slightly move a bin?

    Also how many times do you have to trim your shrubs? We do ours once or twice a year and have bin collection day once a week. That leaves about 150 days to pick from that aren't on bin day. "Having to dig up all your trees and shrubs" sounds like a bit of an overreaction.  
    Because the neighbour goes mental if they are touched. All we have ever done is move them in front of their own wall so they are out of our way. They have installed cameras to record us if we try and move them. There is no reason why the bins need to be placed in front of my property in the first place. They have a wall that is at least 50ft long with no obstruction.  Any normal person would be fine with bins being moved for maintenance purposes. But not this neighbour. 
  • WIAWSNB
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    c4bosh said:
    As the title suggests, I live on a street with detached houses. 
    My neighbour always places their bins on the roadside, but right up against the boundary of my front garden on collection day. My front garden has large shrubs/trees along the front edge of it, and the only way to maintain them is from the pavement side because the garden's ground level drops down to the pavement. 
    I used to tolerate the neighbour by avoiding maintenance near bin collection day. But, quite a few times, the bins would be put out the night before, and still be there the day after collection, all left in front of my garden.
    One day, I decided to move the bins over in front of the neighbour's garden, which has a wall along the front. But I got shouted at for moving them and was forced to put them back in front of my garden. (There seems to be an OCD issue where the neighbour needs to place her bins away from her house.)
    Things escalated because I was getting frustrated at having to manage what days I could arrange for garden maintenance around their bins. So, I moved them again, and I got shouted at and abused by the neighbour and had to call the Police.
    The Police seemed to side with the neighbour and said that because the actual bin is on the street, there is no restriction on where they can place it, even if it's causing an obstruction.
    But, it's really unfair because, yet again, I am in the situation where I need to book someone to trim the shrubs and trees back off the pavement but I have already had to reschedule because the person coming out was booked to carry out the work on Bin Day, before I realised, and I had to quickly rearrange the date which has knocked the slot back weeks, because the change was at short notice. 
    Am I stuck with this setup? I feel like I will have to dig up all of my front garden shrubs/ trees and have nothing to maintain so I don't have to deal with next door's bins.
     
    Hi c4bosh.
    Could you confirm, please; your neighbour places their bins out on the pavement, up next to where your two house boundaries meet, but does not encroach over this invisible line to place them actually in front of your property? 
    If so, what are you complaining about? Where do you place your bins? I'd suggest that adjacent to your neighbour's - on your side - would be helpful to the bin folk.
    As pointed out by others, bin collections are usually a weekly occurrence, but pruning your hedges are likely to be a thrice-annual event at most (once for me...). I think most folk could arrange their trimming days to not coincide with the bin collection. Could you explain why this is difficult for you? How often do you 'trim'?
    If, however, your neighbour is placing their bins in front your property without good reason (eg, it's an established bin-collection point), then that would certainly be unneighbourly, and also possibly harassment, as their purpose would presumably be to annoy. 
    But if your neighbour isn't encroaching over the boundary line, then they are doing now't wrong. And if your neighbour goes 'mental' if you move their bins, to the extent you suspect they have a condition such as OCD, then what are you going to do about this? Tell them to 'get a grip'?
  • MACKEM99
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    edited 19 August at 3:18PM
     Where we live the council informs us to leave the bins at the edge of our property.  Just put your bins outside their property if there are no restrictions. And yell back if they move your bins.  But seriously do you trim your shrubs every single bin day?
  • c4bosh
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    booneruk said:
    The neighbour sounds like a lunatic to be honest. What would happen if you put your bin in this spot before they get the chance?
    Oh, definitely not the full shilling. 
    It's not really practical for me to put the bin in this location. We did continue for a while to move their bin in front of their property but it ended up with the husband threatening us over it.
  • c4bosh
    c4bosh Posts: 9 Forumite
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    MACKEM99 said:
     Where we live the council informs us to leave the bins at the edge of our property.  Just put your bins outside their property if there are no restrictions. And yell back if they move your bins.  But seriously do you trim your shrubs every single bin day?
    No, I'm just saying that I am not thinking about bin day when I plan to trim shrubs. It's just that if it happens to be bin day, then the neighbour makes it a problem by not allowing us to move their bins out of the way.
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