New garage door

booksandbikes

Well, our garage door has given up the ghost and needs replacing. 

It was installed by previous owners in 2022, so hasn't lasted long at all. It was a motorized roller door, and as the door provider has gone out of business we can only get a other-branded motor which we were told may or may not last for long and wouldn't be guaranteed. 🤷‍♀️

The garage door company have recommended a SWS Seceruoglide Compact door and are coming out next week to survey. It is a single garage. Can anyone give a ballpark figure of what this is likely to cost?

If it is too pricey we are considering a manual side opening garage door (like the way they look), which wil hopefully be cheaper and less maintenance.

Is electric worth it - or is there too much likely to go wrong? It's our first electric door, and I'm a bit put off by the fact it hasn't lasted 3 years. 🙄

WIAWSNB

booksandbikes said:

Well, our garage door has given up the ghost and needs replacing. 
It was installed by previous owners in 2022, so hasn't lasted long at all. It was a motorized roller door, and as the door provider has gone out of business we can only get a other-branded motor which we were told may or may not last for long and wouldn't be guaranteed. 🤷‍♀️
The garage door company have recommended a SWS Seceruoglide Compact door and are coming out next week to survey. It is a single garage. Can anyone give a ballpark figure of what this is likely to cost?
If it is too pricey we are considering a manual side opening garage door (like the way they look), which wil hopefully be cheaper and less maintenance.
Is electric worth it - or is there too much likely to go wrong? It's our first electric door, and I'm a bit put off by the fact it hasn't lasted 3 years. 🙄

Make and model of existing door? And, what exactly is wrong with it? Can it not be repaired? And if it was a manufacturing defect, it might still be warranted?

No idea of the costs of the Seceruoglide, but since the door itself appears to be around £1.6k, then I'd imagine another £k for installation. Pure guestimate.

What do you mean by a side-opening door? Two hinged doors that meet in the middle? I agree, they can look nice, but it surely won't be the most practical - a lot more hassle to open and close, tricky to align perfectly, almost certainly not as secure as a single door section - unless you add bolts which will increase the hassle element even more.

Why not a retractable door - one that uses tracks? They work smoothly, don't stick out, and are dead easy to motorise. Mine's a 14' door, and has a wee Liftmaster opener on it - still works without fail nearly 20 years on. Jeepers, I wouldn't be without my leccy garage door now! :-)

ButterCheese

I had an up-and-over door which broke so I got the following quotes:

Replace like for like (up and over with motor) - £1200 fitted

Motorized roller door - £1800 fitted

The 2 above were (I can't remember the industry standard) but approved by Police as being "secure", they come with some sort of stamp on the documentation.

My tenant then got a quote from a local door company who fitted a motorized roller door for £750.  But this is not rated as secure as the industry standard.  It works perfect though after 1 year

In essence, roller doors are less secure anyway because they are thinner.  They are also worse at insulating, but if neither of that matters then the cheaper ones are not to be overlooked.  e.g. I bought a motor for my up-and-over door before the new roller was fitted, it cost me I think between £80-£100, german made, worked perfectly and was still working when we took it out 6 years later.

I think a lot depends on how dry your garage is.  If it's quite damp and/or has excessive gaps around the door then moisture might get into the motor.  Similarly if there's loose plaster/wood/dust that can fall or get blown around, that can gum up the moving components.  As with anything, it's a fairly simple piece of kit but must be installed properly (perfectly level etc) and maintained with some occasional grease/WD40 silicone lube and ensure no debris has built up on moving parts

booksandbikes

It's an Asante garage door, but I can't find any information on the model. The motor is no longer working, and the door guy said they can't guarantee how long a different motor will last. Does that sound legit, or a fob off to get a new door?

It's a flat roof garage with low headroom, which is one of the reasons we considered side opening doors (like you described above, opening in the middle). I think other doors that open inwards will be restricted by the height, and annoyingly we have our gas and electricity meters on the wall by the door, which are just above head height, so I don't think tracks can be installed there without moving them. I'm not sure what other options we have, which won't involve more work/cost to move things around.

Robin9

I've a electric roller door installed 2006 and the fitters have only been out to it once.  It's great.  It's wide about 3m

I suspect yours was badly installed and the motors are over running.

I would have thought this had a 10 year guarantee.

WIAWSNB

booksandbikes said:

It's an Asante garage door, but I can't find any information on the model. The motor is no longer working, and the door guy said they can't guarantee how long a different motor will last. Does that sound legit, or a fob off to get a new door?

It's a flat roof garage with low headroom, which is one of the reasons we considered side opening doors (like you described above, opening in the middle). I think other doors that open inwards will be restricted by the height, and annoyingly we have our gas and electricity meters on the wall by the door, which are just above head height, so I don't think tracks can be installed there without moving them. I'm not sure what other options we have, which won't involve more work/cost to move things around.

Personally, if only the motor has failed (and I bet even that's an 'if'), I'd be looking to replace just the motor. But then I'd be DIYing it.

I'm not going to suggest that this co is trying to fob you off, but I'd certainly be looking at getting alternative quotes and options. To completely replace such a young and otherwise ok door is bonkers advice, I think.

Try a Google for Garage door repair' or similar. 

Lorian

Isn't asante just the door controller?

Robin9

Lorian said:

Isn't asante just the door controller?

I think so -  what he needs is a local installer who knows what they are talking about.

If that motor has failed it has failed for a reason

But spending perhaps £3  when a good overhaul and new motor by someone who knows what they re talking about for £500 is a better option

booksandbikes

Robin9 said:

I've a electric roller door installed 2006 and the fitters have only been out to it once.  It's great.  It's wide about 3m

I suspect yours was badly installed and the motors are over running.

I would have thought this had a 10 year guarantee.

I've looked at the paperwork that the previous owners had left behind, and the installer is no longer in business. The guy who came out yesterday, said that Asante are no longer in business and any guarantees were through their third party installers. So I'd say any guarantee unfortunately is null and void. 

booksandbikes

Lorian said:

Isn't asante just the door controller?

The door is Asante, and the controller is Neco. 

booksandbikes

WIAWSNB said:

Personally, if only the motor has failed (and I bet even that's an 'if'), I'd be looking to replace just the motor. But then I'd be DIYing it.

I'm not going to suggest that this co is trying to fob you off, but I'd certainly be looking at getting alternative quotes and options. To completely replace such a young and otherwise ok door is bonkers, advice, I think.

Try a Google for Garage door repair' or similar. 

I think you are right to suggest other alternatives/quotes. They said a replacement motor is £550, with no guarantee, which made us think a new door was the only viable choice. But on second thought I will phone around and get a second opinion on it.