Lease car registered in mainland GB but located in NI

Herzlos

sheramber said:

Herzlos said:

born_again said:

Mildly_Miffed said:

Grey_Critic said:

Does the lease company have a presence in Ireland? Maybe ask them - they may possibly be able to get you some help fromone of the dealers they use.

Umm, Northern Ireland is part of the UK, not (the Republic of) Ireland.

It is. But the lease company may not like that the car is no longer on UK mainland. 

It's more likely they'll be upset that the lease car isn't with the leaseholder who is still on the UK mainland. 

How long is it in NI for? Can you take it on a day trip to the mainland for an MOT?

Why do you think the OP is  still on UK mainland?

I don't. First line of OPs post says "I have moved this car to Northern Ireland but the lease/owner is still located in mainland GB"

So OP isn't the leaseholder.

Mildly_Miffed

Herzlos said:

sheramber said:

Herzlos said:

born_again said:

Mildly_Miffed said:

Grey_Critic said:

Does the lease company have a presence in Ireland? Maybe ask them - they may possibly be able to get you some help fromone of the dealers they use.

Umm, Northern Ireland is part of the UK, not (the Republic of) Ireland.

It is. But the lease company may not like that the car is no longer on UK mainland. 

It's more likely they'll be upset that the lease car isn't with the leaseholder who is still on the UK mainland. 

How long is it in NI for? Can you take it on a day trip to the mainland for an MOT?

Why do you think the OP is  still on UK mainland?

I don't. First line of OPs post says "I have moved this car to Northern Ireland but the lease/owner is still located in mainland GB"

So OP isn't the leaseholder.

The "lease/owner" is VWFS, and the V5C is to their address in Milton Keynes.

The person leasing the car is the OP. They are the leaseholder. They are in NI, with the car.

VWFS know exactly who the car is with. Whether they know it's in NI or not is beside the point.

The point is that the relatively scarce government-run testing centres in NI will not take a booking for a car that is not closing rapidly on 4yo, because they still have a backlog because of the muck-up over ramp failures a few years ago - and 4yo is the required age for NI-registered vehicles.
But the car is not registered in NI, so needs a test at 3yo...

This would all be a lot easier if the entire country followed the same rules...

Herzlos

That seems an odd way of phrasing it then. If the OP was the one who took out the lease, why mention where the VWFS is located, instead of saying "I'm in NI and VWFS know". 

Grey_Critic

The vehicle is leased by the op via VWFS - the OP is legally responsible and requires agreement with VWFS to remove the vehicle to NI. 

 Years ago if you wanted to take a Hertz lease car on the continent on holiday you first needed to inform them - they then approved you to take the vehicle over the channel but then you had to hand the vehicle over to their local depot where they loamed you a Left Hand Drive vehicle. You returned it and got your own car back at the end of your holiday - They actually had less accidents thet way.

redped

Grey_Critic said:

The vehicle is leased by the op via VWFS - the OP is legally responsible and requires agreement with VWFS to remove the vehicle to NI. 

Have you a source for this info?  You were getting Northern Ireland mixed up with the Republic of Ireland earlier in this thread, so just checking if your statement is 100% correct.  VWFS do finance a lot of cars in NI, after all. 

Mildly_Miffed

Herzlos said:

That seems an odd way of phrasing it then. If the OP was the one who took out the lease, why mention where the VWFS is located, instead of saying "I'm in NI and VWFS know". 

Because that means the car is registered to a GB address.

The MOT rules are different for cars registered to addresses in GB and in NI.

The car has not been taken to a different country, just a different part of the same country, the United Kingdom.

Car_54

Grey_Critic said:

The vehicle is leased by the op via VWFS - the OP is legally responsible and requires agreement with VWFS to remove the vehicle to NI. 

 Years ago if you wanted to take a Hertz lease car on the continent on holiday you first needed to inform them - they then approved you to take the vehicle over the channel but then you had to hand the vehicle over to their local depot where they loamed you a Left Hand Drive vehicle. You returned it and got your own car back at the end of your holiday - They actually had less accidents thet way.

How is this relevant? Have NI changed to driving on the right?

Mildly_Miffed

Car_54 said:

Grey_Critic said:

The vehicle is leased by the op via VWFS - the OP is legally responsible and requires agreement with VWFS to remove the vehicle to NI. 

 Years ago if you wanted to take a Hertz lease car on the continent on holiday you first needed to inform them - they then approved you to take the vehicle over the channel but then you had to hand the vehicle over to their local depot where they loamed you a Left Hand Drive vehicle. You returned it and got your own car back at the end of your holiday - They actually had less accidents thet way.

How is this relevant? Have NI changed to driving on the right?

Nor have the Republic.

But this is all completely irrelevant, because the OP hasn't left the country.

Grey just seems terminally confused about what's part of the UK and what isn't.

Herzlos

Mildly_Miffed said:

Herzlos said:

That seems an odd way of phrasing it then. If the OP was the one who took out the lease, why mention where the VWFS is located, instead of saying "I'm in NI and VWFS know". 

Because that means the car is registered to a GB address.

The MOT rules are different for cars registered to addresses in GB and in NI.

The car has not been taken to a different country, just a different part of the same country, the United Kingdom.

But if the car is still registered to a GB address, is that the correct address for whoever VWFS think has the car?

I assume that on a lease, if you move address you just let the lease company know and they update it, so there'd be no reason for the car to still be registered to a GB address. 

Car_54

Herzlos said:

Mildly_Miffed said:

Herzlos said:

That seems an odd way of phrasing it then. If the OP was the one who took out the lease, why mention where the VWFS is located, instead of saying "I'm in NI and VWFS know". 

Because that means the car is registered to a GB address.

The MOT rules are different for cars registered to addresses in GB and in NI.

The car has not been taken to a different country, just a different part of the same country, the United Kingdom.

But if the car is still registered to a GB address, is that the correct address for whoever VWFS think has the car?

I assume that on a lease, if you move address you just let the lease company know and they update it, so there'd be no reason for the car to still be registered to a GB address. 

Wrong assumption. Usually, on a leased car the registered keeper is the lease company, so the car would remain registered at the company's GB address.

When or if a NIP or PCN is received, the lease company responds giving the lessee's details. And probably charges the lessee an "administration" fee.