Large Sign

Baldytyke88

A local put this on the side of his wall, does it need planning permission?

It's a gap in a row of terraces and it looks rather threatening. I don't live there, asking for a friend.

user1977

What size is it?

Irrespective of whether it needs planning permission, it's probably not enforceable.

FreeBear

Depending on the size & location, it may need planning permission as might the CCTV - The latter probably needs registering with the ICO.

Just ask the local council if this sign needs PP and let them deal with it.

Section62

Baldytyke88 said:

A local put this on the side of his wall, does it need planning permission?

It's a gap in a row of terraces and it looks rather threatening. I don't live there, asking for a friend.

Probably needs 'advertising consent'.  It may fall under one of the categories of deemed/permitted consent, but unlikely if it exceeds 0.3m^2.

If it is displayed on the highway side of the wall then it may also need consent from the highway authority.

Boohoo

Baldytyke88 said:

A local put this on the side of his wall, does it need planning permission?

It's a gap in a row of terraces and it looks rather threatening. I don't live there, asking for a friend.

Is that email address even real.

Seems a bit fishy to me.

You could park a vehicle in front of the banner and see if you get a ticket.

Is there an issue with lots of vehicles parking there?

Section62

Boohoo said:

Baldytyke88 said:

You could park a vehicle in front of the banner and see if you get a ticket.

...would be a way of testing the enforceability of the 'restriction', but probably not advisable if someone only wants to know if the sign has been putup lawfully.

Boohoo said:

Is there an issue with lots of vehicles parking there?

Given the specifics about No1 having access on foot only using the designated path, my guess would be a neighbour dispute.

sheramber

The land belongs to the owner of no 3 and he is prohibiting anybody else using a vehicle over the land. 

In other words don’t drive over my property.

The residents of no1 are allowed access on foot due to a deed of easement.But they  have no right of vehicular access over the area. 

Presumably it is designated in the title deeds of the two properties. 

If the notice is on his own property then no permission is needed.

Any violation is a civil  matter.

Does your ‘friend’ live at no 1?

Baldytyke88

sheramber said:

Does your ‘friend’ live at no 1?

He lives a short walk around the corner, he isn't saying he knows anyone affected, just that it looks awful.

It is a conservation area, so planning permission could be needed for the CCTV.

I guess I will need to measure the sign in order to make it easier for the planning department.

user1977

Baldytyke88 said:

sheramber said:

Does your ‘friend’ live at no 1?

It is a conservation area, so planning permission could be needed for the CCTV.

I suspect it would be needed for the sign too in a conservation area.

WIAWSNB

Baldytyke88 said:

sheramber said:

Does your ‘friend’ live at no 1?

He lives a short walk around the corner, he isn't saying he knows anyone affected, just that it looks awful.

It is a conservation area, so planning permission could be needed for the CCTV.

I guess I will need to measure the sign in order to make it easier for the planning department.

It is pretty ugly indeed.

Yes, anything you can give Planning for them to decide, as easily as possible, whether it's worth getting off their botty for, would be helpful. So size, location, and perhaps a wide shot to show its context - location, and how visible it is to others, etc. - would be good. 

bobster2

Hmmm...I think the sign writer might have trouble enforcing the penalty charge.

Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012: Recovery of Unpaid Parking Charges says that private land owners can impose a penalty charge where someone breaches a parking contract - i.e. where someone is invited to park on private land with payment of a fee, and perhaps they don't pay the fee or overstay.

However, in circumstances where there was no invitation to park - and therefore no parking contract to be breached - then this is simply trespass rather than breach of a contract and...

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a79d6be40f0b670a8025ccb/guidance-unpaid-parking-charges.pdf

Schedule 4 also provides for parking charges in England and Wales to be recoverable from the registered keeper where a person trespasses on private land by parking a vehicle on the land without permission. In those circumstances a landholder must be able to show he or she has suffered a loss and justify the damages they are seeking to recover for the trespass