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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,432 Forumite
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    It's where my signature tells you to click. You've seen my signature under every reply.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Castle
    Castle Posts: 4,828 Forumite
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    Did they really issue a "Penalty Charge Notice"?
  • Gr1pr
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    edited 20 July at 12:39PM
    See the template for paragraph 2

    ^^ADD 'and driver' if admitting that.

    if you were not driving and believe the NTK was non-POFA, add that fact.

    You should be truthful,  plus if the NTK PCN letter complied with POFA,  then add and driver if you were the driver,  especially because a known driver is a first person witness , your defence is a statement of truth 

    If Pofa2012 was complied with,  then a keeper/ driver argument is moot, read the following post

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6301728/driver-not-driver-undue-reliance-on-pofa-in-court-defences

  • Gr1pr
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    edited 20 July at 1:08PM
    Not if you are using MCOL as is the current advice 

    Copy and paste the template,  removing the instructions about 2 and 3, edit 2, add your 3 , job done,  paste it into the MCOL defence box , save,  submit

    Just follow the new advice as is
  • 0107shumaker
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    thank you @Gr1pr., your help is very much apprechiated.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 21 July at 1:04PM
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    I think that's putting Chan & Akande into the wrong place and it fails to make enough of the 2025 ban on the '5 minute rule'.

    Para 3 should use the usual words about Chan and Akande to strike the case out.

    Then an extra para 4 should be a about how long it took you to pay and why, and that you appealed and the Claimant rejected it outright. Copy the defence words you found when you searched for:

    Hannah Robinson wonders mine defendant

    I PROMISE that search finds the paragraph to copy. Change to 'newest' and read more than just a handful of the first results. Read more of the results till you find a defence with the words you need about the 5 minute rule.

    If by adding a para 4 and renumbering the rest, the template doesn't fit when you try to save it in the MCOL defence box, just delete the final paragraph about discontinuances / the White book. You can do the final adjustments without our help: make it fit.

    Then hit SUBMIT defence. Don't just save it, or it is not in!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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