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Hi, small court claim, private parking charge

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 153,465 Forumite
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    It's where my signature tells you to click. You've seen my signature under every reply.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Castle
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    Did they really issue a "Penalty Charge Notice"?
  • Gr1pr
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    edited 20 July at 12:39PM
    See the template for paragraph 2

    ^^ADD 'and driver' if admitting that.

    if you were not driving and believe the NTK was non-POFA, add that fact.

    You should be truthful,  plus if the NTK PCN letter complied with POFA,  then add and driver if you were the driver,  especially because a known driver is a first person witness , your defence is a statement of truth 

    If Pofa2012 was complied with,  then a keeper/ driver argument is moot, read the following post

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6301728/driver-not-driver-undue-reliance-on-pofa-in-court-defences

  • Gr1pr
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    edited 20 July at 1:08PM
    Not if you are using MCOL as is the current advice 

    Copy and paste the template,  removing the instructions about 2 and 3, edit 2, add your 3 , job done,  paste it into the MCOL defence box , save,  submit

    Just follow the new advice as is
  • 0107shumaker
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    thank you @Gr1pr., your help is very much apprechiated.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 20 August at 2:16PM

    I think that's putting Chan & Akande into the wrong place and it fails to make enough of the 2025 ban on the '5 minute rule'.

    Para 3 should use the usual words about Chan and Akande to strike the case out.

    Then an extra para 4 should be a about how long it took you to pay and why, and that you appealed and the Claimant rejected it outright. Copy the defence words you found when you searched for:

    Hannah Robinson wonders mine defendant

    I PROMISE that search finds the paragraph to copy. Change to 'newest' and read more than just a handful of the first results. Read more of the results till you find a defence with the words you need about the 5 minute rule.

    If by adding a para 4 and renumbering the rest, the template doesn't fit when you try to save it in the MCOL defence box, just delete the final paragraph about discontinuances / the White book. You can do the final adjustments without our help: make it fit.

    Then hit SUBMIT defence. Don't just save it, or it is not in!
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  • 0107shumaker
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    Hi all,
    I am about to send N180 complited form . Can someone help with email address? Or should I just upload it on MCOL ?

    Thanks 
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 21 August at 3:26PM
    Hi all,
    I am about to send N180 complited form . Can someone help with email address? Or should I just upload it on MCOL ?

    Thanks 
    Just follow the first 8 steps in the Template Defence thread. It is explained there and all the CNBC emails are there too.

    Top of the forum or very near.

    Please also edit your thread title to say you have a court claim, saying which solicitors and which PPC. You can now edit posts and your thread title using the three dots above each reply/post you made. We can't cope with the lack of context in a thread called 'Hi'!

    And this month, we need you!

    PLEASE bookmark this thread below and do Public Consultation if you haven't done it yet. See this thread: -

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6617396/parking-code-of-practice-consultation-8-weeks-from-11th-july-2025/p1

    We need every poster to come back & complete this vital Consultation before the deadline! Just 2 weeks left but please don't rush it. You can do some then save it and come back to it as you have time.

    We understand that you may need some pointers. It looks laborious, we get that.

    Any questions on the Consultation please ask - on the dedicated thread - but I've covered up to question 20 already in that first post, openly telling everyone what I'm going to put and/or what sort of evidence you might wish to use for your response, if you agree with what we'll be saying from our experience.

    Whilst your answers must of course be your own, there are vital points to safeguard motorists interests to make, that many people may not think of without our guidance because we see cases every day and we know the legal background. However, people like you have lived & breathed the intimidation, greed and unfairness first hand so your voice is needed!

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  • 0107shumaker
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    @coupon-mad can you please direct me to that link, I'm struggling to navigate it. 
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 21 August at 3:26PM
    If you mean the Template defence, my signature already directs you about how to hop back to page one of the forum.

    Did you miss it? Look:
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