Need advice on £3,050 of private parking charges (18 tickets)

kryten3000

troubledcat said:

Thanks for pointing that out. In my case, the car has been parked and on SORN—it hasn’t moved in over six months. So there wouldn’t have been any movement for CCTV or ANPR to pick up. If they’ve issued tickets using CCTV, I’d be very interested to know how that applies when the vehicle hasn’t been in use at all.

Make sure that the agreement for the parking space allows this.  Many residential sites have a rule that vehicles must be taxed have a valid MOT to be parked on the land.

h2g2

> Make sure that the agreement for the parking space allows this.  Many residential sites have a rule that vehicles must be taxed have a valid MOT to be parked on the land.

This wouldn't necessarily affect the validity of the PCNs. While my leasehold agreement has a similar term, it also sets out what actions the management company / freeholder may take. Namely, that they apply to the First Tier Tribunal (Property) for a declaration that the lease is being breached and an order to set it right, and that they may recover the costs of doing this from the leaseholder. I don't think leaseholds generally allow unlimited charges as a penalty for breaches.

ChirpyChicken

h2g2 said:

> Make sure that the agreement for the parking space allows this.  Many residential sites have a rule that vehicles must be taxed have a valid MOT to be parked on the land.

This wouldn't necessarily affect the validity of the PCNs. While my leasehold agreement has a similar term, it also sets out what actions the management company / freeholder may take. Namely, that they apply to the First Tier Tribunal (Property) for a declaration that the lease is being breached and an order to set it right, and that they may recover the costs of doing this from the leaseholder. I don't think leaseholds generally allow unlimited charges as a penalty for breaches.

indeed its not normally something you see on parking signs

troubledcat

h2g2 said:

> Make sure that the agreement for the parking space allows this.  Many residential sites have a rule that vehicles must be taxed have a valid MOT to be parked on the land.

This wouldn't necessarily affect the validity of the PCNs. While my leasehold agreement has a similar term, it also sets out what actions the management company / freeholder may take. Namely, that they apply to the First Tier Tribunal (Property) for a declaration that the lease is being breached and an order to set it right, and that they may recover the costs of doing this from the leaseholder. I don't think leaseholds generally allow unlimited charges as a penalty for breaches.

 @h2g2  Out of curiosity, have you ever come across a case where the total amount claimed through PCNs was as high as £3,050? I’ve been trying to find examples of similarly large claims but haven’t seen many

ChirpyChicken

troubledcat said:

h2g2 said:

> Make sure that the agreement for the parking space allows this.  Many residential sites have a rule that vehicles must be taxed have a valid MOT to be parked on the land.

This wouldn't necessarily affect the validity of the PCNs. While my leasehold agreement has a similar term, it also sets out what actions the management company / freeholder may take. Namely, that they apply to the First Tier Tribunal (Property) for a declaration that the lease is being breached and an order to set it right, and that they may recover the costs of doing this from the leaseholder. I don't think leaseholds generally allow unlimited charges as a penalty for breaches.

 @h2g2  Out of curiosity, have you ever come across a case where the total amount claimed through PCNs was as high as £3,050? I’ve been trying to find examples of similarly large claims but haven’t seen many

Yes double on many occasions 
But its completely and utterly irrelevant to you. Trying to find them isnt going to help your case
You should be obtaining the lease document not wasting time going down various rabbit holes 

Coupon-mad

troubledcat said:

h2g2 said:

> Make sure that the agreement for the parking space allows this.  Many residential sites have a rule that vehicles must be taxed have a valid MOT to be parked on the land.

This wouldn't necessarily affect the validity of the PCNs. While my leasehold agreement has a similar term, it also sets out what actions the management company / freeholder may take. Namely, that they apply to the First Tier Tribunal (Property) for a declaration that the lease is being breached and an order to set it right, and that they may recover the costs of doing this from the leaseholder. I don't think leaseholds generally allow unlimited charges as a penalty for breaches.

 @h2g2  Out of curiosity, have you ever come across a case where the total amount claimed through PCNs was as high as £3,050? I’ve been trying to find examples of similarly large claims but haven’t seen many

Yes. Almost always in unfair & predatory residential cases, e.g.

VCS v Carr £9,500 - claim struck out.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14821715/amp/Driver-Philip-Carr-wins-court-fine-parking-home.html

Hannah Robinson (not a residential case):
£11,300 but tables were turned on Excel:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2040xy9yn6o.amp

And these are also recent 4 figure cases:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6613087/pcns-issued-on-private-freehold-bays

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6610867/letting-agent-promised-to-cancel-parking-tickets-then-refused-no-permit-dcb-legal/p1

And here's one from 2023 with a claim form for a similar sum:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80255174/#Comment_80255174