Nice trip to Amsterdam ruined by Bristol City Council

Ectophile

born_again said:

discountguy1969 said:

How do you edit posts once live?  doesn’t seem to be an option to edit

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Yes, there are big signs.

But somehow a passing motorist who doesn't even live in the area is supposed to know all the details of the zone.  Which vehicles it applies to, and which ones are exempt.  How to pay.  How much to pay. When to pay.

The signs are pretty much useless.

I spent ages finding a way around the Bath clean air zone to avoid going through the city centre.  Which is really difficult as that's the big main road.  Some time later, I found that private cars are exempt from the fees.

Mildly_Miffed

Ectophile said:

Yes, there are big signs.

But somehow a passing motorist who doesn't even live in the area is supposed to know all the details of the zone.

Or, at least, to see the signs and take the responsibility to do a little bit of basic research.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/driving-in-a-clean-air-zone

Bath - Class C, Buses, coaches, taxis, private hire vehicles, heavy goods vehicles, vans, minibuses
So not private cars.

They're all Euro4 petrol, Euro6 diesel, because that's where NOx - which they're aimed at - fell to the current new-diesel levels.

Check your car's compliance - https://www.gov.uk/clean-air-zones

born_again

Ectophile said:

born_again said:

discountguy1969 said:

How do you edit posts once live?  doesn’t seem to be an option to edit

Given your post count you cant. Report (red at bottom of post) the post & team will remove the pictures.

Yes, there are big signs.

But somehow a passing motorist who doesn't even live in the area is supposed to know all the details of the zone.  Which vehicles it applies to, and which ones are exempt.  How to pay.  How much to pay. When to pay.

The signs are pretty much useless.

I spent ages finding a way around the Bath clean air zone to avoid going through the city centre.  Which is really difficult as that's the big main road.  Some time later, I found that private cars are exempt from the fees.

I think you answered your own question.

You see a sign & do not understand if you need to pay, in such cases should prompt a check by the driver to see if they have to pay or not.

As the saying goes ignorance of the law is not a excuse.

Ectophile

born_again said:

Ectophile said:

born_again said:

discountguy1969 said:

How do you edit posts once live?  doesn’t seem to be an option to edit

Given your post count you cant. Report (red at bottom of post) the post & team will remove the pictures.

Yes, there are big signs.

But somehow a passing motorist who doesn't even live in the area is supposed to know all the details of the zone.  Which vehicles it applies to, and which ones are exempt.  How to pay.  How much to pay. When to pay.

The signs are pretty much useless.

I spent ages finding a way around the Bath clean air zone to avoid going through the city centre.  Which is really difficult as that's the big main road.  Some time later, I found that private cars are exempt from the fees.

I think you answered your own question.

You see a sign & do not understand if you need to pay, in such cases should prompt a check by the driver to see if they have to pay or not.

As the saying goes ignorance of the law is not a excuse.

So on seeing the sign, I have to find somewhere I can park (which is easier said than done in a city where everywhere is a permit zone), then get the phone out and start researching a LEZ that I didn't even know was there until I saw the sign!

All because the sign has no information that's any use to anybody.

paul_c123

Ectophile said:

born_again said:

discountguy1969 said:

How do you edit posts once live?  doesn’t seem to be an option to edit

Given your post count you cant. Report (red at bottom of post) the post & team will remove the pictures.

Yes, there are big signs.

But somehow a passing motorist who doesn't even live in the area is supposed to know all the details of the zone.  Which vehicles it applies to, and which ones are exempt.  How to pay.  How much to pay. When to pay.

The signs are pretty much useless.

I spent ages finding a way around the Bath clean air zone to avoid going through the city centre.  Which is really difficult as that's the big main road.  Some time later, I found that private cars are exempt from the fees.

When I went to Bath recently I used Google Maps to plan my route, it flagged up there was a clean air zone and I looked into it (well, asked my passenger to look into it) before I was anywhere near the city centre.

ontheroad1970

Ectophile said:

born_again said:

Ectophile said:

born_again said:

discountguy1969 said:

How do you edit posts once live?  doesn’t seem to be an option to edit

Given your post count you cant. Report (red at bottom of post) the post & team will remove the pictures.

Yes, there are big signs.

But somehow a passing motorist who doesn't even live in the area is supposed to know all the details of the zone.  Which vehicles it applies to, and which ones are exempt.  How to pay.  How much to pay. When to pay.

The signs are pretty much useless.

I spent ages finding a way around the Bath clean air zone to avoid going through the city centre.  Which is really difficult as that's the big main road.  Some time later, I found that private cars are exempt from the fees.

I think you answered your own question.

You see a sign & do not understand if you need to pay, in such cases should prompt a check by the driver to see if they have to pay or not.

As the saying goes ignorance of the law is not a excuse.

So on seeing the sign, I have to find somewhere I can park (which is easier said than done in a city where everywhere is a permit zone), then get the phone out and start researching a LEZ that I didn't even know was there until I saw the sign!

All because the sign has no information that's any use to anybody.

No internet at home to research where you are going?  If all teh information was applied to on street furniture, it would either be so big that it would block  the road, or the print so small that you wouldn't be able to read it without stopping.

sheramber

With the prevalance of clean air zones, bus lanes, bus gates  etc now I would think it would be prudent to check out any city you are going to enter, if you are not familiar with it.

boobyd

Ectophile said:

born_again said:

Ectophile said:

born_again said:

discountguy1969 said:

How do you edit posts once live?  doesn’t seem to be an option to edit

Given your post count you cant. Report (red at bottom of post) the post & team will remove the pictures.

Yes, there are big signs.

But somehow a passing motorist who doesn't even live in the area is supposed to know all the details of the zone.  Which vehicles it applies to, and which ones are exempt.  How to pay.  How much to pay. When to pay.

The signs are pretty much useless.

I spent ages finding a way around the Bath clean air zone to avoid going through the city centre.  Which is really difficult as that's the big main road.  Some time later, I found that private cars are exempt from the fees.

I think you answered your own question.

You see a sign & do not understand if you need to pay, in such cases should prompt a check by the driver to see if they have to pay or not.

As the saying goes ignorance of the law is not a excuse.

So on seeing the sign, I have to find somewhere I can park (which is easier said than done in a city where everywhere is a permit zone), then get the phone out and start researching a LEZ that I didn't even know was there until I saw the sign!

All because the sign has no information that's any use to anybody.

In effect yes.
It won't be to park it will be pull over for a couple of minutes(using eyes ).
To many drivers these days blindly follow Sat nav etc and are oblivious to where they are,surroundings etc

born_again

Ectophile said:

born_again said:

Ectophile said:

born_again said:

discountguy1969 said:

How do you edit posts once live?  doesn’t seem to be an option to edit

Given your post count you cant. Report (red at bottom of post) the post & team will remove the pictures.

Yes, there are big signs.

But somehow a passing motorist who doesn't even live in the area is supposed to know all the details of the zone.  Which vehicles it applies to, and which ones are exempt.  How to pay.  How much to pay. When to pay.

The signs are pretty much useless.

I spent ages finding a way around the Bath clean air zone to avoid going through the city centre.  Which is really difficult as that's the big main road.  Some time later, I found that private cars are exempt from the fees.

I think you answered your own question.

You see a sign & do not understand if you need to pay, in such cases should prompt a check by the driver to see if they have to pay or not.

As the saying goes ignorance of the law is not a excuse.

So on seeing the sign, I have to find somewhere I can park (which is easier said than done in a city where everywhere is a permit zone), then get the phone out and start researching a LEZ that I didn't even know was there until I saw the sign!

All because the sign has no information that's any use to anybody.

Never said that.

You said "Some time later, I found that private cars are exempt from the fees"

So all you need to do is check later on, as you clearly did.

All you need to do is check one site

https://multiple-vehiclecheck-pay.drive-clean-air-zone.service.gov.uk/what_would_you_like_to_do

Tick "Check Vehicle", enter reg & it gives the result for ALL CAZ 👍

savergrant

lordmountararat said:

Hoenir said:

lordmountararat said:

My sister was caught out by innocently following diversion signs after the M5 was closed following an accident. She wrongly assumed that allowance would be made in these circumstances. 

Why would anybody assume that existing traffic regulations are simply dispensed with ?  

Because of the exceptional circumstances. No chance to pay the charge and no alternative but to follow the diversion signs. 

If you see the signs they should tell you how to pay. However they should advise you of a way to avoid entering the clean air zone, as the idea is to discourage high polluting vehicles. It does seem odd that it would be suggested as a diversion for high polluting vehicles.