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Smart Parking + DCB Claim

elithia
Posts: 3 Newbie

Hi all,
I've received a LOC a few weeks ago from DCB legal on behalf of Smart Parking for two PCNs relating to two incidents in March 2023. I wasn't able to dispute these at any earlier stage due to changes of address - I wasn't aware the PCNs existed until DCB letters started to appear. I did respond to the LOC with the generic response advised in this forum, and I received a reply a few days ago still saying I need to pay in 30 days etc. I'm aware replying was futile anyway, and I know a court claim is imminent so I'm just positing here to get some advice on the angle I should take.
One of the PCNs, I have bank statement evidence of a transaction to smart parking at 11.25am and the pictures of my old car from APNR camera evidence show my car entering at 11.21 and existing at 12.33. For the other, I don't have anything for, and also have no idea whether I was driving as the car was shared at the time. I haven't seen any evidence proving or disproving that a ticket was purchased - it is only pictures of the car, that was I was the keeper of, entering and exiting the car park. Should I just defend both claiming no keeper liability? Especially considering I've read that Smart Parking don't follow the necessary POFA regs in their NTKs?
Thanks in advance.
I've received a LOC a few weeks ago from DCB legal on behalf of Smart Parking for two PCNs relating to two incidents in March 2023. I wasn't able to dispute these at any earlier stage due to changes of address - I wasn't aware the PCNs existed until DCB letters started to appear. I did respond to the LOC with the generic response advised in this forum, and I received a reply a few days ago still saying I need to pay in 30 days etc. I'm aware replying was futile anyway, and I know a court claim is imminent so I'm just positing here to get some advice on the angle I should take.
One of the PCNs, I have bank statement evidence of a transaction to smart parking at 11.25am and the pictures of my old car from APNR camera evidence show my car entering at 11.21 and existing at 12.33. For the other, I don't have anything for, and also have no idea whether I was driving as the car was shared at the time. I haven't seen any evidence proving or disproving that a ticket was purchased - it is only pictures of the car, that was I was the keeper of, entering and exiting the car park. Should I just defend both claiming no keeper liability? Especially considering I've read that Smart Parking don't follow the necessary POFA regs in their NTKs?
Thanks in advance.
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Wait for the claim to see what the particulars say. Don't do their job for them by providing details that they don't know about. Definitely question their compliance with the POFA and also put them to strict proof of their authority to operate.
If these claims are like the usual DCB ones, they will discontinue later in the process provided you submit a robust defence based on the Newbies template.3 -
Definitely DO NOT admit to driving in the defence. Smart Parking only started using the keeper liability law this year!PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD3 -
Thanks both. So should I focus my defence on them not being able to hold me liable as the keeper, and not mention any extra details such as the bank statement record or getting them to prove that no ticket was actually purchased by the driver?0
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Use the template defence and the special DCB Legal paragraph 3:
"Referring to the POC: paragraph 1 is denied. The Defendant is not indebted to the Claimant. Whilst the Defendant is the registered keeper, paragraphs 3 and 4 are denied. The Defendant is not liable and has seen no evidence of a breach of prominent terms. The quantum is hugely exaggerated (no PCN can be £170 on private land) and there were no damages incurred whatsoever. The Claimant is put to strict proof of all of their allegations."2 -
kryten3000 said:Use the template defence and the special DCB Legal paragraph 3:
"Referring to the POC: paragraph 1 is denied. The Defendant is not indebted to the Claimant. Whilst the Defendant is the registered keeper, paragraphs 3 and 4 are denied. The Defendant is not liable and has seen no evidence of a breach of prominent terms. The quantum is hugely exaggerated (no PCN can be £170 on private land) and there were no damages incurred whatsoever. The Claimant is put to strict proof of all of their allegations."
@elithia here are a few threads ahead of you in this game:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6609963/n1sdt-from-dcb-legalhttps://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6610041/conditions-of-ccj-staying-my-record
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6609990/dcbl-parking-defence
Their paragraph 3 of defence will help you when it's your turn. Easy peasy to defend. Easier than any appeal.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD2
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