Where is the safest place to save all my pin numbers and passwords?

Eyeful

1. Using the same password for every site even adding something different to the end is not a safe method. The hackers know about it aand know how to crack it.

2. Using a reputable password manager is recommended by the expert.
PWM's can generate a long and complex word that they will store and you do not even need to know.
All you do need to remember is the one password that will unlock the PWM.

3. If you do not want to fully trust the PWM, then you can use the "double blind" (salting) method on the important sites:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boj9q26gadE

LHW99

2. Using a reputable password manager is recommended by the expert.

PWM's can generate a long and complex word that they will store and you do not even need to know.

All you do need to remember is the one password that will unlock the PWM.

I like Keepass, but I don't use it on my phone, as I find the screen too small to do important stuff on easily (short sight). And the NHS app keeps expecting me to log in by phone, so i need the password, and copying a long randomly generated string from one device to another is a pain.

Generally using on more than one PC though is a doddle. You just have the back up database on the "other" PC.

UKX69

royP_2 said:

What is the best and safest way to save all the above, most of the above need passwords, pin numbers, security codes etc, no way can I remember them.
I am very wary of online systems and at the moment I have them written down and hidden.
Think about possible thieves breaking in or possible fire [know that is rare but possible].
We need to keep these somewhere just in case I die suddenly, I am 85, my wife will need them as well as my two sons.
Any thoughts?

I’m in the same position as you but 10 years younger! 😏 If I popped off tomorrow my wife wouldn’t be able to switch the computer on let alone access our cash!! I’ve used a notebook for years for PW’s and codes and never had a problem or sleepless nights. I’ve stash it away in a safe place and told my wife where it is in case I do meet my maker and daughter or son has to take over. 

We keep every day cash in a joint account so Mrs UKX can go into the bank if needed. ☺️

Shylock_249

For simple passwords such as Chums clothing, Booking.com I use an encrypted MS Word table and to confuse any would be hacker I write some of the passwords in Kiswahili on the site but write the English one in the table and example: I might write "I know" in the table but on the site I write "najua". Any Alan Turings out there?  Consider: I don't want his oranges - sitakimachunwayake

For banks, building societies etc I've started using Bitwarden which works quite well.  Some years ago I tried Keypass which I found difficult to use especially if I'd created a long difficult password made up of numbers and characters because some building societies wouldn't accept "Copy and Paste" and then it was very difficult enter the passwords manually.

flaneurs_lobster

UKX69 said:

I’m in the same position as you but 10 years younger! 😏 If I popped off tomorrow my wife wouldn’t be able to switch the computer on let alone access our cash!!
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We keep every day cash in a joint account so Mrs UKX can go into the bank if needed. ☺️

Your wife's inability to use a computer - is that by choice or is there some impediment to her abilities?

Being able to access things online is pretty much a basic life skill these days.

UKX69

flaneurs_lobster said:

UKX69 said:

I’m in the same position as you but 10 years younger! 😏 If I popped off tomorrow my wife wouldn’t be able to switch the computer on let alone access our cash!!
....

We keep every day cash in a joint account so Mrs UKX can go into the bank if needed. ☺️

Your wife's inability to use a computer - is that by choice or is there some impediment to her abilities?

Being able to access things online is pretty much a basic life skill these days.

She isn’t really interested but also hasn’t the best of memories. I can show her how to do something and two days later she’s forgotten! It came home to roost when she nearly gave up her job in the back room of a well known high street retailer when computers were brought in to streamline systems. That was overcome by sheer determination. Thank goodness she’s retired! 🫣 She knows how to shop on her iPad ok though!! 😂

grumpy_codger

Shylock_249 said:

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For banks, building societies etc I've started using Bitwarden which works quite well.  Some years ago I tried Keypass which I found difficult to use especially if I'd created a long difficult password made up of numbers and characters because some building societies wouldn't accept "Copy and Paste" and then it was very difficult enter the passwords manually.

I don't see how Bitwarden is better than Keypass in this respect. In both you can edit passwords or use your own instead of automatically generated ones and you can set your rules for generating passwords in Keypass.
With regard to disabled paste - google if you can change settings in a browser to bypass this stupid restriction. I've done this in my preferred Firefox  annoyed by stupidly complex 8-symbol alphanumeric Santander OTPs that their IT idiots not allowed to paste. Now I easily copy&paste them on my PC from Phone Link to Firefox.

leosayer

grumpy_codger said:

Shylock_249 said:

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For banks, building societies etc I've started using Bitwarden which works quite well.  Some years ago I tried Keypass which I found difficult to use especially if I'd created a long difficult password made up of numbers and characters because some building societies wouldn't accept "Copy and Paste" and then it was very difficult enter the passwords manually.

I don't see how Bitwarden is better than Keypass in this respect. In both you can edit passwords or use your own instead of automatically generated ones and you can set your rules for generating passwords in Keypass.
With regard to disabled paste - google if you can change settings in a browser to bypass this stupid restriction. I've done this in my preferred Firefox  annoyed by stupidly complex 8-symbol alphanumeric Santander OTPs that their IT idiots not allowed to paste. Now I easily copy&paste them on my PC from Phone Link to Firefox.

Most password safes should have the option of generating a password that is a combination of 3 random words (eg. augustus,petrov,gum) which is a recommended and secure method and much easier to remember and enter manually. 

https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/collection/top-tips-for-staying-secure-online/three-random-words

Ciprico

Do any of these programs work with the secondary password, for example with iweb, you enter username and password, it then asked randomly one of three pre answered  questions, ie mother's name or first school...

flaneurs_lobster

Ciprico said:

Do any of these programs work with the secondary password, for example with iweb, you enter username and password, it then asked randomly one of three pre answered  questions, ie mother's name or first school...

Not with autofill, but all password apps that I'm aware of have note/free text space available for each entry where you can store such things.