Parking large vehicles

Okell

Baldytyke88 said:

Martin_the_Unjust said:

Yes I know, I was just pointing out that it is also unprofessional and almost certainly illegal to park on the pavement.

i was suggesting that it would perhaps be better to suggest to your friend that they park correctly in future.

Parking correctly on the road may cause other motorists more problems, perhaps there should be different rules for large vans/motorhomes and minibuses.

Is this in London or in Scotland?

If it isn't, then - as I've already pointed out - parking on the pavement is not necessarily a problem, even if your friend thinks it is

Can you give some relevant information for a change?

Grumpy_chap

Baldytyke88 said:

Martin_the_Unjust said:

Yes I know, I was just pointing out that it is also unprofessional and almost certainly illegal to park on the pavement.

i was suggesting that it would perhaps be better to suggest to your friend that they park correctly in future.

Parking correctly on the road may cause other motorists more problems, perhaps there should be different rules for large vans/motorhomes and minibuses.

If parking correctly on the road would cause other problems, then this is not a suitable location for that vehicle to be parked.  Park elsewhere.

Car_54

Okell said:

Martin_the_Unjust said:

Baldytyke88 said:

Martin_the_Unjust said:

…and you have someone on the internet complaining about your minibus parking on the pavement.

pavements are for people.

The complaint wasn't about parking on the pavement, it was a complaint about a large vehicle parking close to an exit, so blocking the view of vehicles exiting.

Yes I know, I was just pointing out that it is also unprofessional and almost certainly illegal to park on the pavement.

i was suggesting that it would perhaps be better to suggest to your friend that they park correctly in future.

I'm not sure that it's necessarily illegal to park on the pavement anywhere, but I am fairly sure it's a civil parking offence to park on the pavement in London (unless the local council has disapplied in respect of certain streets the London-wide ban on pavement parking) and in Scotland.

It's illegal in London - Greater London Council (general Powers) Act 1974, section 15. It applies to "any vehicle", so includes cyclists.

Martin_the_Unjust

Baldytyke88 said:

Martin_the_Unjust said:

Yes I know, I was just pointing out that it is also unprofessional and almost certainly illegal to park on the pavement.

i was suggesting that it would perhaps be better to suggest to your friend that they park correctly in future.

Parking correctly on the road may cause other motorists more problems, perhaps there should be different rules for large vans/motorhomes and minibuses.

Well we wouldn’t want to inconvenience motorists so let’s inconvenience people in wheelchairs, those with pushchairs, the partially sighted etc instead.

Herzlos

Car_54 said:

Okell said:

Martin_the_Unjust said:

Baldytyke88 said:

Martin_the_Unjust said:

…and you have someone on the internet complaining about your minibus parking on the pavement.

pavements are for people.

The complaint wasn't about parking on the pavement, it was a complaint about a large vehicle parking close to an exit, so blocking the view of vehicles exiting.

Yes I know, I was just pointing out that it is also unprofessional and almost certainly illegal to park on the pavement.

i was suggesting that it would perhaps be better to suggest to your friend that they park correctly in future.

I'm not sure that it's necessarily illegal to park on the pavement anywhere, but I am fairly sure it's a civil parking offence to park on the pavement in London (unless the local council has disapplied in respect of certain streets the London-wide ban on pavement parking) and in Scotland.

It's illegal in London - Greater London Council (general Powers) Act 1974, section 15. It applies to "any vehicle", so includes cyclists.

According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1974/24/section/15

"“vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle or a vehicle designed or adapted for towing by, or to be attached to, a mechanically propelled vehicle but does not include a heavy commercial vehicle within the meaning of [F24section 19 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (heavy commercial vehicles)]. "

So bicycles are not vehicles. I guess an e-bike might be.

Grumpy_chap

Herzlos said:

According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1974/24/section/15

"“vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle or a vehicle designed or adapted for towing by, or to be attached to, a mechanically propelled vehicle but does not include a heavy commercial vehicle within the meaning of [F24section 19 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (heavy commercial vehicles)]. "

So bicycles are not vehicles. I guess an e-bike might be.

We are drifting off topic, but what is the definition of "mechanically propelled"?

Car_54

Herzlos said:

Car_54 said:

Okell said:

Martin_the_Unjust said:

Baldytyke88 said:

Martin_the_Unjust said:

…and you have someone on the internet complaining about your minibus parking on the pavement.

pavements are for people.

The complaint wasn't about parking on the pavement, it was a complaint about a large vehicle parking close to an exit, so blocking the view of vehicles exiting.

Yes I know, I was just pointing out that it is also unprofessional and almost certainly illegal to park on the pavement.

i was suggesting that it would perhaps be better to suggest to your friend that they park correctly in future.

I'm not sure that it's necessarily illegal to park on the pavement anywhere, but I am fairly sure it's a civil parking offence to park on the pavement in London (unless the local council has disapplied in respect of certain streets the London-wide ban on pavement parking) and in Scotland.

It's illegal in London - Greater London Council (general Powers) Act 1974, section 15. It applies to "any vehicle", so includes cyclists.

According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1974/24/section/15

"“vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle or a vehicle designed or adapted for towing by, or to be attached to, a mechanically propelled vehicle but does not include a heavy commercial vehicle within the meaning of [F24section 19 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (heavy commercial vehicles)]. "

So bicycles are not vehicles. I guess an e-bike might be.

Thank you.

Herzlos

Grumpy_chap said:

Herzlos said:

According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1974/24/section/15

"“vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle or a vehicle designed or adapted for towing by, or to be attached to, a mechanically propelled vehicle but does not include a heavy commercial vehicle within the meaning of [F24section 19 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (heavy commercial vehicles)]. "

So bicycles are not vehicles. I guess an e-bike might be.

We are drifting off topic, but what is the definition of "mechanically propelled"?

It's one using a motor. So an electric motor is still mechanically propelled.  Something you need to push or pedal isn't.

Herzlos

Baldytyke88 said:

Martin_the_Unjust said:

Yes I know, I was just pointing out that it is also unprofessional and almost certainly illegal to park on the pavement.

i was suggesting that it would perhaps be better to suggest to your friend that they park correctly in future.

Parking correctly on the road may cause other motorists more problems, perhaps there should be different rules for large vans/motorhomes and minibuses.

There are; park somewhere you're not causing an obstruction. It's harder for larger vehicles, so you may need to park further away or get a yard.

Baldytyke88

Herzlos said:

You're not supposed to park anything within 10m of a junction, but there's nothing specific about large vans.

Is there a reason you need to park a minibus somewhere so obnoxious?

But that would be a road junction, this is just an exit of a gym, it's in England.