Would no central heating put you off?

Albermarle

ComicGeek said:

I wouldn't spend £10k putting a gas CH system back in. I would spend £10k putting in standard AC split/multi-split units or condenserless units - at least 4 times as efficient as direct electric heating, and comparable in running costs to gas CH. Also provides cooling in summer, and much quicker to heat up a room than radiators.

I'm a big fan of the condenserless heat pumps like https://www.powrmatic.co.uk/products/air-conditioning/powrmatic-vision/ - no need to run pipework all around the house. One in the living room, one in each bedroom that is used. 

Unfortunately the home owner is likely to have fallen for one of the many electric heating scams and paid a premium for the panel heaters - may not be willing to accept a price drop for their mistake.

This would be worth looking at, although these systems are not eligible for the £7500 grant for fitting an air source heat pump.
Personally I would investigate both systems, rather than fitting a new gas CH system from scratch, to future proof the property.
To save money the OP could maybe keep the current electric hot water tank. 

ComicGeek

Albermarle said:

ComicGeek said:

I wouldn't spend £10k putting a gas CH system back in. I would spend £10k putting in standard AC split/multi-split units or condenserless units - at least 4 times as efficient as direct electric heating, and comparable in running costs to gas CH. Also provides cooling in summer, and much quicker to heat up a room than radiators.

I'm a big fan of the condenserless heat pumps like https://www.powrmatic.co.uk/products/air-conditioning/powrmatic-vision/ - no need to run pipework all around the house. One in the living room, one in each bedroom that is used. 

Unfortunately the home owner is likely to have fallen for one of the many electric heating scams and paid a premium for the panel heaters - may not be willing to accept a price drop for their mistake.

This would be worth looking at, although these systems are not eligible for the £7500 grant for fitting an air source heat pump.
Personally I would investigate both systems, rather than fitting a new gas CH system from scratch, to future proof the property.
To save money the OP could maybe keep the current electric hot water tank. 

I wouldn't be surprised if an ASHP, pipework and oversized radiators came out at least £7500 more expensive anyway, cancelling out any available grant - that is generally how the figures for the grant have been calculated, being the 'typical' additional cost for installing ASHPs.

Veteransaver

You could consider installing air conditioning units, which are also very efficient at heating, and would likely be cheaper and less upheaval than a full gas Ch system.
Though the units can be a bit ugly

heatherw_01

It wouldn't put me off. There are many other ways to heat a home.
I think it is just down to the person. Some it would put them off completely and others it wouldn't bother at all.
It isn't a dealbreaker.

Flo87

£8/9K for a heating system it`s on the expensive side if you talk about a standard house.
2 years ago I`ve paid £4k for a brand new system that included: relocating the location of the boiler, new 18m gas pipe, brand new pipes all the house, 37 Kw boiler, and decommission the old system(loft water tank, hot water cylinder) only  the radiators was separate( extra £600)  as I was got vertical ones.

mcplumb

Flo87 said:

£8/9K for a heating system it`s on the expensive side if you talk about a standard house.
2 years ago I`ve paid £4k for a brand new system that included: relocating the location of the boiler, new 18m gas pipe, brand new pipes all the house, 37 Kw boiler, and decommission the old system(loft water tank, hot water cylinder) only  the radiators was separate( extra £600)  as I was got vertical ones.

4k all in !

I'm at nearly 4k plus VAT just for the materials. Bearing in mind that would be top end boiler all rads and pipework sized for low flow temperature (as should all installs be!). That is for nothing fancy radiator wise, just Stelrad compacts.  

Based in Winchester, Hants so higher end labour wise compared others regions

Mgman1965

There was an old house near us that was sold to a developer 

Was all done up and sold on, and had some supposedly very swish halogen type heating fitted ( (i gather the type that warms you and not the surroundings) and was all electric. 

Back on market 2 years later now with gas radiator central heating  which told me a lot.

catclaires

ComicGeek said:

I wouldn't spend £10k putting a gas CH system back in. I would spend £10k putting in standard AC split/multi-split units or condenserless units - at least 4 times as efficient as direct electric heating, and comparable in running costs to gas CH. Also provides cooling in summer, and much quicker to heat up a room than radiators.

I'm a big fan of the condenserless heat pumps like https://www.powrmatic.co.uk/products/air-conditioning/powrmatic-vision/ - no need to run pipework all around the house. One in the living room, one in each bedroom that is used. 

Unfortunately the home owner is likely to have fallen for one of the many electric heating scams and paid a premium for the panel heaters - may not be willing to accept a price drop for their mistake.

Agree with this. We've had multisplit AC for a year (replacing an old oil central heating system) and are very happy. As already mentioned, the units are extremely efficient and heat up a room rapidly. Installation was very simple and quick, and no need for taking floors up, etc. Usually, one of the main disadvantages is having to think of a separate solution for hot water, but the OP has a cylinder already, so it shouldn't be a problem! From our experience, I also agree that paying outright for this type of system is likely to be at least as cheap/quite possibly cheaper than getting an air-to-water system with the grant; it was certainly the case for us. It's definitely worth looking into; unless the house is absolutely huge, I'd be surprised if you had to pay anything like 10k for it (ours was about half that cost)!

sheramber

Is there gas supply to the house?

It may have electric heating  because there is no gas supply. 

mcplumb

sheramber said:

Is there gas supply to the house?

It may have electric heating  because there is no gas supply. 

It did have a gas supply and full gas ch the same as all the other houses locally.

Who knows why, but they went all electric 4/5 years back.

The gas will cost around £400 to get a re connection, although the heat pump route is an option. The heat pump option would require a new board although so would the current setup if done correctly. From initial conversations with electrical contractors it's pushing it.

I think my main question is more to gauge opinion on how people would generally view an all electric property (which has no reason to be)