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POPLA HIGH SIGN AND SUN BLINDING ON ENTRANCE

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  • juehankie
    juehankie Posts: 142 Forumite
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    their pictures of a sign are dated sept 11 2024
    entered carpark april 2025. 
    the sign was hidden behind a 8ft tall bush 
    one sign they state is situated approx 8 bays across is NOT there.

  • Le_Kirk
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    P ITS A FREE SITE OF 2 HOURS USE. WE USED IT FOR PARKING PRACTICE OF A BAY ONCE STORE WAS CLSOED. WE SAW NO SIGNS
    (THEIR EVIDENCE PACK SHOWS SIGNS WHICH WERE NOT VISIBLE AS THEY WERE EITHER BEHIND A BUSH ON ENTRY OR FAR AWAY FROM THE BAY WE USED. )
    Who sent that to whom?  If you submitted it, you seem to have shot yourself in the foot by admitting to being there when the site was closed and using it for driving/parking practice.  You needed to rely on the missing/obscure signage aspect .  Suggest you repost that wall of text from POPLA with some paragraph breaks so regulars will be able to read it.

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,970 Forumite
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    edited 7 July at 2:41PM
    Your pics are time-stamped and are good.

    Show us the landowner authority?

    What are their pictures showing? Show us.

    By the way, download and KEEP the evidence pack in case you lose because you can't easily get access to it later on, if you lose and end up defending a claim. Their evidence pack is useful later, as you'd get no surprises. 
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • juehankie
    juehankie Posts: 142 Forumite
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    Your pics are time-stamped and are good.

    Show us the landowner authority?

    What are their pictures showing? Show us.

    By the way, download and KEEP the evidence pack in case you lose because you can't easily get access to it later on, if you lose and end up defending a claim. Their evidence pack is useful later, as you'd get no surprises. 
    I am a little confused why you are asking me about landlord authority. 
    their pictures show a sign dated sept 11 2024. 
    and their carpark layout map shows the signs that AREN'T there today. or were hidden behind a 7/8ft bush. 
  • juehankie
    juehankie Posts: 142 Forumite
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    Le_Kirk said:
    P ITS A FREE SITE OF 2 HOURS USE. WE USED IT FOR PARKING PRACTICE OF A BAY ONCE STORE WAS CLSOED. WE SAW NO SIGNS
    (THEIR EVIDENCE PACK SHOWS SIGNS WHICH WERE NOT VISIBLE AS THEY WERE EITHER BEHIND A BUSH ON ENTRY OR FAR AWAY FROM THE BAY WE USED. )
    Who sent that to whom?  If you submitted it, you seem to have shot yourself in the foot by admitting to being there when the site was closed and using it for driving/parking practice.  You needed to rely on the missing/obscure signage aspect .  Suggest you repost that wall of text from POPLA with some paragraph breaks so regulars will be able to read it.

    Le_Kirk said:
    P ITS A FREE SITE OF 2 HOURS USE. WE USED IT FOR PARKING PRACTICE OF A BAY ONCE STORE WAS CLSOED. WE SAW NO SIGNS
    (THEIR EVIDENCE PACK SHOWS SIGNS WHICH WERE NOT VISIBLE AS THEY WERE EITHER BEHIND A BUSH ON ENTRY OR FAR AWAY FROM THE BAY WE USED. )
    Who sent that to whom?  If you submitted it, you seem to have shot yourself in the foot by admitting to being there when the site was closed and using it for driving/parking practice.  You needed to rely on the missing/obscure signage aspect .  Suggest you repost that wall of text from POPLA with some paragraph breaks so regulars will be able to read it.

    i dont mind shooting myself in the foot if i KNEW i was guilty of breaking a contract. but as NO signs were visible i had no idea I couldnt use an empty carpark once the store was closed. 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,970 Forumite
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    'Lack of landowner authority' is a standard POPLA point, pre-written and suggested in post 3 of the NEWBIES thread.

    If you used that point, then they had to provide a copy of the authority.

    If you didn't, then forget that matter.

    Are you saying they only provided ONE photo of a single sign from 2024 in daylight? Show us their signage pics please.


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  • juehankie
    juehankie Posts: 142 Forumite
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    'Lack of landowner authority' is a standard POPLA point, pre-written and suggested in post 3 of the NEWBIES thread.

    If you used that point, then they had to provide a copy of the authority.

    If you didn't, then forget that matter.

    Are you saying they only provided ONE photo of a single sign from 2024 in daylight? Show us their signage pics please.


    is land onwer not mentioned in the letter they sent me?
    yes they sent one photo of 2024 sept. and a carpark layout plan of the signs around the carpark.
    one is not there. on the side I used too.
    the other was NOT visible as a 7./8ft bush was covering it. i attached the photo of my view on previous post. 
    i dont know how to show the picture they provided because its all on one pdf file. 
  • juehankie
    juehankie Posts: 142 Forumite
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    juehankie said: screenshot of the sign dated sept 2024
    'Lack of landowner authority' is a standard POPLA point, pre-written and suggested in post 3 of the NEWBIES thread.

    If you used that point, then they had to provide a copy of the authority.

    If you didn't, then forget that matter.

    Are you saying they only provided ONE photo of a single sign from 2024 in daylight? Show us their signage pics please.


    is land onwer not mentioned in the letter they sent me?
    yes they sent one photo of 2024 sept. and a carpark layout plan of the signs around the carpark.
    one is not there. on the side I used too.
    the other was NOT visible as a 7./8ft bush was covering it. i attached the photo of my view on previous post. 
    i dont know how to show the picture they provided because its all on one pdf file. 
    screenshot of the sign dated sept 2024
  • juehankie
    juehankie Posts: 142 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Photogenic
    Your pics are time-stamped and are good.

    Show us the landowner authority?

    What are their pictures showing? Show us.

    By the way, download and KEEP the evidence pack in case you lose because you can't easily get access to it later on, if you lose and end up defending a claim. Their evidence pack is useful later, as you'd get no surprises. 
    Authority We can confirm that the above site is on private land, is not council owned and that we have written authority to operate and issue Parking Charge Notices at this site from the landowner (or landowner’s agent). It must also be noted that any person who makes a contract in his own name without disclosing the existence of a principal, or who, though disclosing the fact that he is acting as an agent on behalf of a principal, renders himself personally liable on the contract, is entitled to enforce it against the other contracting party. 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,970 Forumite
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    edited 9 July at 7:09PM
    But did you use the POPLA point challenging 'no landowner authority' in your appeal? The one already written in the 3rd post of NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST?

    If not, then this won't matter as they only have to respond to matters you raised.
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