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can you get a shaver socket that does not hum?

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  • Section62
    Section62 Posts: 9,698 Forumite
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    Section62 said:
    teaselMay said:
    teaselMay said:
    ...The mains in general hums at 50Hz.
    100Hz ;)           

    No idea where you are if the mains is 100Hz
    The hum from a transformer is typically double the mains frequency.  Though the totality of the subject of 'hum' is a lot more complicated than that.
    What exactly is more complicated (in terms of doubling the frequency)?

    "...the totality of the subject of 'hum'..."

    Harmonics... for example.  Or the interaction between equipment, or with nearby ferous metals, for another.

  • teaselMay
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    Section62 said:
    teaselMay said:
    teaselMay said:
    ...The mains in general hums at 50Hz.
    100Hz ;)           

    No idea where you are if the mains is 100Hz
    The hum from a transformer is typically double the mains frequency.  Though the totality of the subject of 'hum' is a lot more complicated than that.
    I stand corrected, thanks
  • grumpy_codger
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    Section62 said:
    Section62 said:
    teaselMay said:
    teaselMay said:
    ...The mains in general hums at 50Hz.
    100Hz ;)           

    No idea where you are if the mains is 100Hz
    The hum from a transformer is typically double the mains frequency.  Though the totality of the subject of 'hum' is a lot more complicated than that.
    What exactly is more complicated (in terms of doubling the frequency)?

    "...the totality of the subject of 'hum'..."

    Harmonics... for example.  
    Yes, there will be 200, 400, 800.... but hardly noticeable.
  • ButterCheese
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    Nothing more to add, except next time you are due for a new toothbrush, get an ultrasonic one and/or one with a simple charger that you plug in to a normal socket.  Mine was very cheap(£14 odd) and is excellent.  Charger is silent and is just a USB to pointy end
  • sandyman80
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    So I'll take that as a NO then since nobody has suggested one?
  • Rodders53
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    edited 28 April at 6:05PM
    Such sockets are crude mains isolating transformers and consume around 20 Watts when on, without a load from shaver or toothbrush. It is therefore a wise money saving thing to not leave them ON all the time to reduce electric consumption.

    Our Oral B toothbrushes can last a few weeks between charges, as will my rechargeable Phillips wet/dry shaver. As others have stated.

    I have yet to find a silent mains shaver socket.

    Some shaver sockets have a power switch operated by the plug being inserted, others may have a manual on/off switch (perhaps also operating a light).  Rarely some are on all the time and need an external switch to save money and the noise.I
    But there should be absolutely no need to leave a device on charge all the time (and I suspect the makers manual merely says it is safe to do that, rather than it is necessary...).
  • grumpy_codger
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    edited 28 April at 9:22PM
    Rodders53 said:
    Such sockets are crude mains isolating transformers and consume around 20 Watts when on, without a load from shaver or toothbrush. It is therefore a wise money saving thing to not leave them ON all the time to reduce electric consumption.
    20W is exaggeration. AFAIK, the load is 20-40W max, so it can't consume 20W without load (well, it possibly can if connected to the CU with 100m cable).
    I checked mine and it consumes 4-5W - and for testing (with my smart meter) I plugged in an extension lead with two (empty) USB ports that do consume some very small power.

  • Risteard
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    Most shaver sockets are NOT designed for charging electric toothbrushes. Those that are will contain a toothbrush emblem on them to indicate their suitabililty. A toothbrush is not an intermittent load like a shaver.
  • RavingMad
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    Close the door to the ensuite? Charge it during the day? Charge it once a week?
  • teaselMay
    teaselMay Posts: 665 Forumite
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    Maybe just the houses I go in but I don't think I've seen a shaver socket since I left home in 1994
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