Transaction trace

unlucky25

I have mislaid a lotto ticket and someone else may have claimed a big win , I bought the ticket with goods from my local shop.
Would the card transaction timestamp proove I am the rightful owner  of the winning ticket?

DullGreyGuy

unlucky25 said:

I have mislaid a lotto ticket and someone else may have claimed a big win , I bought the ticket with goods from my local shop.
Would the card transaction timestamp proove I am the rightful owner  of the winning ticket?

How much do you believe you have won? 

https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/games/in-store/rules#int_lost_stolen_destroyed_or_damaged_tickets

The above covers the rules on claiming from a lost ticket, its mainly at their discretion 

unlucky25

£137000, it was taken from my property by a family  member, so new where and roughly  when I bought  it, and i did not sign the ticket.was hoping after a lot of emails to the lotto I can prove it was my ticket by my timestamp on my card. But I think I'm to late

CliveOfIndia

The timestamp may go some way to indicating that you bought the ticket, but it's going to be hard to prove using that alone - it's not impossible that another customer also bought a lottery ticket from the same shop at the same time, especially if it was a large supermarket.  But there's nothing lost by making a claim as detailed in the link helpfully provided by DGG above.

unlucky25 said:

£137000, it was taken from my property by a family  member

I think you'd have far more success by speaking directly to this family member - if you're sure it was them.  Although I'm guessing you're likely not on speaking terms - what sort of person would steal from another family member?

DullGreyGuy

unlucky25 said:

£137,000, it was taken from my property by a family  member, so new where and roughly  when I bought  it

Reported them to the police?

Companies tend to get rather dubious of claims that someone has stolen £137,000 from you if you haven't reported it to the cops and gotten a crime reference number

born_again

unlucky25 said:

I have mislaid a lotto ticket and someone else may have claimed a big win , I bought the ticket with goods from my local shop.
Would the card transaction timestamp proove I am the rightful owner  of the winning ticket?

No. In a word. All CC get is retailer, amount & time of transaction. Nothing more. Going to guess this is either a contactless or chip&pin transaction. As such the retailer does not even have to provide a copy of the till receipt.

Not even sure that if you tied the time of the transaction to what the retailer had on the till roll, would give you anything more than maybe items & a ticket was bought. Receipt would not have lottery number on it.

Echo @DullGreyGuy If you think it's a family member, then police. But do not be surprised if they simply say it is a civil matter.

unlucky25

No I haven't  reported  this to the police yet but I'm about to. I left this up to the lotto investigating. I am sure they disbelieve  me. So the only thing I have left is my card transaction timestamp, which I joined here today to ask all you guys would this prove I am the rightful  owner.

CliveOfIndia

unlucky25 said:

I left this up to the lotto investigating. I am sure they disbelieve  me.

With respect, from what you've described, the most that you'd be able to prove - if you're lucky - is that you bought a lottery ticket at that time from that location.  The lottery organiser is not going to simply hand over £137,000 without concrete proof that you had a winning ticket.

Think about it - what's to stop me buying a ticket tonight, then claiming I'd lost it but it was a million pound winner come Saturday?

DullGreyGuy

born_again said:
Echo DullGreyGuy If you think it's a family member, then police. But do not be surprised if they simply say it is a civil matter.

Theft is a criminal matter, given the alleged thief is known it should be easier to get them to take at least some action on the matter. Obviously they won't help in the recovery of the monies if it was stolen and claimed by the family member but if they are convicted of the theft it helps in the case with the lotto or any civil action against them to recover it. Now the "thief" may say the OP gifted it to them and were it a £10 winner the police may have just said then give it back or split the winnings. Given its alegedly a very significant winning the police should be more willing to be involved.

Unfortunately the police have limited funding and sometimes focus too much on stats. I had a briefcase stolen from a restaurant at lunchtime, didnt have a laptop in it but did have sensitive paperwork and a few bits. The police at the time refused to register it as stolen saying that as I hadn't seen it taken they would treat it as lost property instead. Having to tell work that sensitive documents had gone but I can't give a crime number but only a lost property one did not go down well. 

Eventually the police apologised, agreed it should have been taken as a theft report. 

unlucky25

Thanks guys, 
Although  after the comments it looks has tho the crooks have won. The lotto said if you believe you are truly  the owner we suggest you report your serious  allegations to the police but you are going to have concrete evidence  to prove your the rightful  owner. I was also wondering  if the police did take my case up seriously if they would take the thieves phones, as I bet there would be some interesting google searches.

CliveOfIndia

unlucky25 said:

I was also wondering  if the police did take my case up seriously if they would take the thieves phones, as I bet there would be some interesting google searches.

Maybe I'm being a bit dim, but why would they need to use Google to help them steal your lottery ticket?